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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Baby X is bor nagain Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:02:50 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <v4sf7r$1eukr$1@dont-email.me> References: <v494f9$von8$1@dont-email.me> <v49t6f$14i1o$1@dont-email.me> <v4bcbj$1gqlo$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v4bh56$1hibd$1@dont-email.me> <v4c0mg$1kjmk$1@dont-email.me> <v4c8s4$1lki1$4@dont-email.me> <20240613002933.000075c5@yahoo.com> <v4emki$28d1b$1@dont-email.me> <20240613174354.00005498@yahoo.com> <v4okn9$flpo$2@dont-email.me> <v4p37r$k32n$1@dont-email.me> <v4pei3$m5th$2@dont-email.me> <v4q2gm$sib9$1@dont-email.me> <v4s2lu$1c7bs$1@dont-email.me> <v4s3q6$1cgrl$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 19:13:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="24730d7a2aace3b15633a7cca7d6ca34"; logging-data="1538715"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18JkjjYDnPxGSAY9PSmaaXx5B6c0IzjLJQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/ghWcJipngH+cjgmH2PXE09X6L8= In-Reply-To: <v4s3q6$1cgrl$3@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3026 bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes: >On 18/06/2024 14:39, James Kuyper wrote: >> On 17/06/2024 21:24, bart wrote: >> ... >>> If you don't need optimised code right now, why would you invoke gcc >>> rather than tcc? It's a no-brainer. >> >> On virtually every occasion when I've heard someone claim that a given >> decision is a no-brainer, I would generally make a different decision if >> I actually applied my brain to the issue. This is no exception. >> > >So your brain would tell you to choose a tool which takes at least 10 >times as long to do the same task? No, "the task" isn't "compile a program", it's "develop a program", which includes only a quite negligible amount of time spent compiling it. What I know about TCC is relatively limited, but the Wikipedia article is consistent with what I though I knew. It says that tcc supports all of the features of C90, most of C99, and some gnu extensions. That is not the dialect of C I want to write in. I want full conformance with the latest official version of C, with any unintentional use of gnu extensions flagged with a diagnostic. Having to write my code in a crippled version of C would be a waste of my time, and having to fix it to take advantage of the features of a more modern version of C when I'm ready to optimize it would be a further waste of time. I'd save far more development time by writing in the same dialect of C from the very beginning, then I could ever possibly save by dividing entirely negligible compile times by a factor of 10.