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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andrew <andrew@spam.net> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,ca.driving Subject: Re: It's a myth that cellphone use caused the accident rate to rise Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:15:24 -0000 (UTC) Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Message-ID: <v4sfbb$17qa$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <v2ssjo$ddd$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v2v70b$pkq2$1@solani.org> <v2vfbf$mks$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0oma1306bpbsj000@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v33obj$grl$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <3ce32e95-3359-c3f6-7c34-6909bcb82a5b@invalid.nospam> <v36b7s$1r28$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <630736f2-6537-e202-9116-4c013d56140d@invalid.nospam> <v37h8e$16mi7$1@dont-email.me> <i0ne5jhpec132tb67g73b8lenve9fut52r@4ax.com> <v38ktm$1gcum$1@dont-email.me> <v391hc$jdm$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xh6cnefJQvpz-Oz7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:15:24 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="40778"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:tZ/mJZrBI4BhwGWPcRzG19rXs/8= sha256:cbAb24g6Ddqp6CU/xXd+ZujAUVeoGfCl8vzUyrmCFCU= sha1:QQxAogwjgYVq2Xer51OmekpfZpw= sha256:Y49GQOkp1jPHF8/3jZF+striozMelp3b24FeooshcUs= X-Newsreader: PiaoHong.Usenet.Client.Free:1.65 Bytes: 4504 Lines: 64 bad sector wrote on Tue, 18 Jun 2024 06:48:14 -0400 : > https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/distracted-driving You're clearly not educated as a scientist is educated. That link says NOTHING that detracts from my statement of fact. My statement of fact is that the accident record shows absolutely no change whatsoever in the reliably reported accident rates for all fifty states in the United States when you look at the periods before, during and after the meteoric rise of cellphone ownership from 0% to nearly 100% today. I get it that most people believe in every myth in the book. I get it that most people think the accident rate must have gone up. Hell, even I, a trained scientist, would have thought it would have. But it didn't. The difference between stupid people and someone intelligent is that an intelligent person is able to separate baseless myths from facts. Nobody said that distracted driving wasn't the leading cause of accidents. Nobody said cellphones were an *added* distraction. Nobody said driving does not entails handline hundreds of distractions. What I said was there is zero evidence that cellphones had any effect whatsoever (up or down) on the accident rate, which has been reliably reported by the US Census Bureau since well before any of us were born. What just happened is you're so incredibly *desperate* to believe in the baseless myth that you googled furiously and couldn't find even a single cite of fact that disputes that fact. I knew that would happen. While I'm surprised you did not cite bullshit insurance, lawyer and ticketing agency cites, and while I commend you for at least citing the NHSA, don't you think I've scoured the Internet for all known cites? You think I'm stupid? I'm not. I'm extremely well educated in the sciences and in engineering. I know full well how desperate uneducated people are to believe in myths. You believe in a myth that has zero basis in actual fact. You think I don't know that about you? I knew you will never find a single reliable cite backing up your belief. Because your entire belief system isn't based on any actual facts. You believe in a baseless myth. You cited a site that says nothing to dispute the facts. <https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/distracted-driving> All it says is what nobody disagrees with, which is that driving entails handling hundreds (probably thousands!) of distractions. Nobody said it didn't. That NHTSA cite doesn't say anything about the facts I speak of. That's because they *know* the facts (far better than you do, in fact). What I said was that there is no change whatsoever in the accident rates before, during and after cellphones skyrocketed. Which is a fact you can't deny simply because it's a well-known fact.