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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rich <rich@example.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 20:04:14 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <v4sp7u$1gttp$1@dont-email.me> References: <v4s3ld$bu48$1@i2pn2.org> <v4s7nv$1cvio$1@dont-email.me> <v4sfv1$celq$1@i2pn2.org> <v4snug$1gjt3$1@dont-email.me> <v4sp2f$cnon$1@i2pn2.org> Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:04:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8d6c210f11a82313bfe46bbb2da75273"; logging-data="1603513"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+yHzOd1iEtvXuLbXLYp1fp" User-Agent: tin/2.6.1-20211226 ("Convalmore") (Linux/5.15.139 (x86_64)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TBiEw6DNGSmhV0XB1Gty/C57cJc= Bytes: 2487 Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> wrote: > Rich wrote: > >> Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> wrote: > >> > Well, I guess this would then need a program to handle, right? >> >> Yes, but you also need a program to handle the conversion from dates to >> hex and back. Granted, few would suspect that the "date" command was >> used to convert the dates back into a 'key'. > > And in case people are looking at bash's history, for to many date > usages, I have a 'del' command in my .bashrc. :-) > > alias del=">~/.bash_history;history -cw;" Yes, you would want to clear the history, or configure bash to not save those specific invocations in the first place. >> > My Idea is to use no program for that, so that no evidence can be >> > found on the device, in case someone is looking at it. >> >> It could be a generic erasure coding program, and the exact parameters >> (block size, amount of redundancy, etc.) are remembered and specified >> only when it is run to 'check' the output. Then it would, presumably, >> be no more suspicious than the 'date' command itself (other than what >> suspicion might be raised by the fact that most OS'es don't ship with >> an erasure coder by default). > > I guess, instead of an erasure program, I will only use date and put > the output in my argon2id program, for key generation, which also has > the option to overwrite the clipboard. Which means you /do/ have another program available, that could be 'looked for'....