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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.panix2.panix.com!not-for-mail From: jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 13:04:57 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Public Access Networks Corp. Message-ID: <v4ul1p$7ud$1@reader1.panix.com> References: <0001HW.2C0BDD05000713EB7000090E038F@news.supernews.com> <robertaw-D3EBEB.21520117062024@news.individual.net> <v4snjn$1gjq1$1@dont-email.me> <2g957j5m5qfpevnuuojggu1d98la2vgrpv@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 13:04:57 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="panix2.panix.com:166.84.1.2"; logging-data="8141"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Bytes: 2083 Lines: 26 In article <2g957j5m5qfpevnuuojggu1d98la2vgrpv@4ax.com>, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote: >On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 15:36:21 -0400, William Hyde ><wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote: > >>However, Ontario also received a number of "delayed loyalists", i.e. >>Americans attracted by free land, well after the war(1). As these >>proved far from loyal to the British in the war of 1812(2), perhaps your >>grandmother had a point. >> > >I've never seen a source that suggested land in modern day southern >Ontario was free though it was a fraction (I've read 1/3) of what the >US was selling land for in what is now the Midwest. > >Again - in British eyes there were enough of them that it was felt to >be a security threat in the region between London (ON) and York (now >Toronto) though in the event these settlers chose loyalty to their >land rather than to their former country. Yeah, to the 1812 invaders' enormous surprise, you can't win hearts and minds by setting fire to people's homes. -- My reviews can be found at http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/ My tor pieces at https://www.tor.com/author/james-davis-nicoll/ My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/ My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll