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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Fairbrother <peter@tsto.co.uk> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:02:31 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <v4vdgn$249vl$3@dont-email.me> References: <v4s3ld$bu48$1@i2pn2.org> <v4s46k$bu48$2@i2pn2.org> <v4s62s$c1if$1@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:02:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="11e83ddfa5707c6a85053169736b452d"; logging-data="2238453"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Pqx0poVVBzg4OYvt2ycAkTSiMdNyefUM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:k63NR9WnuC04mrSVDDyyIO7C/3w= In-Reply-To: <v4s62s$c1if$1@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2107 On 18/06/2024 15:37, Stefan Claas wrote: > Stefan Claas wrote: > >> Stefan Claas wrote: >> >>> You thoughts please, gentlemen. >>> >>> Let's say you travel and do not want to store your secret hex key on your >>> device and recreate it from memory. >>> >>> What do you think about this proposal? >>> >>> $ printf '%x' $(date -u -d '1979-01-01 12:34:56' +%s) $(date ...) 4 or 8 times. >>> >>> One has to remember only the dates (times are optional) and then simply run the >>> one liner. >> >> And use that as a seed for Argon2id key creation. >> >>> >>> The encryption software can be downloaded when one arrives at his destination. Hmm, from where? Threat analysis? > I think diceware passwords with Argon2id are the solution, because one can > recreate the Argon2id hex key with with the memorized diceware passphrase. :-) Much better. Both diceware and argon2id can be improved on, but generally that would mostly work. Peter Fairbrother bored, just got out of hospital, and laid up with bad knee