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On 6/5/2024 1:30 AM, D wrote:
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> 
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
> 
>> In article <lbr238Fa73cU1@mid.individual.net>,
>> Bernard Peek  <bap@shrdlu.com> wrote:
>>> The measures were probably excessive for a disease with a
>>> mortality of 0.5% but would have been woefully inadequate if
>>> it had been 2.5% instead. We took months to impose pretty
>>> feeble restrictions. I would like to see response-times
>>> measured in hours.
>>
>> One of the big problems preventing early measures from being
>> taken was believing a word that came from the ChiCom regime.
>> The WHO basically parroted whatever they said about no
>> human-to-human transmission, etc., until it became impossible
>> to ignore.  The rest of the world needs to recognize that
>> totalitarian despots lie.
>>
>>
> 
> True. With response time in hours, the world economy would collapse 
> multiple times given how many fake scares we would have.
> 
> The best option would have been, like sweden, to issue some 
> recommendations to protect the old and do absolutely nothing.
> 
> But boy was the international community angry with sweden for showing 
> that no lock downs were necessary and neither were masks. They destroyed 
> completely any credibility the rest of the worlds politicians had! =)

I see the numbers (source: worldmeters.info)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Sweden: 2.682 deaths per million
US      3,642

But Sweden is hardly the best.

France:  2,556 (fierce lockdown there)
Germany: 2,182 (ditto)
Ireland: 1,891
Norway:  1,024

nor is the US the worst:
Bulgaria: 5,661
Hungary:  5,106

Someday, there will be a thorough comparison of the various
strategies, what worked, what didn't.

If lockdowns and masks didn't help, what did? Why was the
US so much worse than, say, Ireland? Why did Sweden have
double the death rate of Norway?


pt