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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Criminal Records Expunged for St. Louis Gun Couple Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:54:43 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: <v4vgil$258cf$1@dont-email.me> References: <B7WcnT_drY_sm-_7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <v4t2ai$1imbc$1@dont-email.me> <atropos-1CD7DC.18410418062024@news.giganews.com> <v4uvta$21spc$2@dont-email.me> <atropos-DE6AC6.09273119062024@news.giganews.com> <v4v8ug$23o16$2@dont-email.me> <atropos-542467.12091619062024@news.giganews.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:54:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8c64deeef54593d1938d941691bc3ec9"; logging-data="2269583"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19NnOJqrA2VaK0qqlUkEEyRbJ7YtctVyPw=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZBttB/ed85st0DeUjcgnciG45uE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <atropos-542467.12091619062024@news.giganews.com> Bytes: 3250 On 6/19/2024 3:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article <v4v8ug$23o16$2@dont-email.me>, > moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> On 6/19/2024 12:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article <v4uvta$21spc$2@dont-email.me>, >>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/18/2024 9:41 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article <v4t2ai$1imbc$1@dont-email.me>, >>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ST. LOUIS (AP) - A judge has expunged the misdemeanor convictions >>>>>>> of a St. Louis couple who waved guns at racial injustice protesters >>>>>>> outside their mansion in 2020. Now they want their guns back. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had no idea that four years later, this still hadn't happened. >>>>>> >>>>>> It was a gated community, which are all over St. Louis. They were >>>>>> trespassing. >>>>> >>>>> Apparently 'trespassing' is a meaningless term when you're doing it for >>>>> 'social justice'. >>>> >>>> Don't you even *pretend* there's a built-in tug-of-war between >>>> "trespassing" and "peaceable assembly"? >>> >>> Maybe in a public place like a university quad, but not in a private >>> residential neighborhood. >> >> Under the presumption that each point of view must give some ground > > Why would you presume that? Why would you presume I presume it, especially after I've explicitly labeled it a 'presumption'? >> I'd say that the protesters' rights depend on history, geometry, etc. > > I'd say (and I'd be right) that no protester has rights to come onto my > private property at all. I'm the only one who gets to decide who's > allowed and who isn't. It's pretty much in the definition. So, e.g., we can suspend the right of peaceable assembly by temporarily transferring public property rights to some private party...