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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: California Bans Non-White Paper Shooting Targets Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 15:36:31 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 72 Message-ID: <v520bv$2n6c1$4@dont-email.me> References: <Ua6cnWPzMZYw8-n7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 21:36:32 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5f6723e81ced72bfe713efc1ebd17bbb"; logging-data="2857345"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+tUhEpGMxd1nZQ9rLtX2Lk0U5wVo8wWiA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:OPNlrRToK/ObHGg1IKJinS7nBSQ= In-Reply-To: <Ua6cnWPzMZYw8-n7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4899 On 6/20/2024 2:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > Ah, California... the stupidity never stops. <sigh> > > This is the target we used for requals. We always questioned why it is that > we were only shooting white guys. > > -------------------- > https://americancop.com/banning-targets/ > > Since at least 2013, a tremendous number of agencies have suffered from > "Good Idea Fairy" visits. I’m specifically addressing those "good ideas" > that will reportedly fix society's ills but have little to no factual > foundation. Generally, these stem from politicians "doing something" to fix > a problem. > > Some of these include-- claiming there is no national standard for using > force while trying to throw out Graham v Connor, ignoring SCOTUS rulings > like United States v Whren to attack pro-active policing, or protesting the > release of positive body-worn camera footage. > > Then, we had wholesale changes to various penal codes. These came from the > various legislative bodies and ballot initiatives. One is California's > Proposition 47-- deceptively titled (by Kamala Harris, no less) "the Safe > Neighborhoods and Schools Act". It radically elevated the dollar threshold > for felonies while mandating citations versus custodial bookings and no > practical consequences. Then, there are the various bail “reform” efforts. > No need to make bail while releasing people without consequences. > > California now has Senate Bill 1020 working its way through the system. > After passing the state senate, it is going to the Assembly. The bill will > ban any paper shooting target in which the subject's race can be > identified. Suppose it passes California's Assembly and is signed by the > governor. In that case, cops in my old state will lose valuable training > tools. In addition to targets that aid in judgment, they will lose one way > that removes "novelty"--new or previously unseen problems-- from training. > State Senator Steven Bradford authored the bill. > > After hearing about SB-1020, I looked at Braford's web page. It mentions > the intent of the bill is to correct "inherent racial bias that certain > ethnic groups are more dangerous". I wonder if his staff looked at the Law > Enforcement Officers Killed & Assaulted data. Data, not opinion. > > SB1020 would enact Penal Code section 13658, which reads: > > (a) Each law enforcement agency and police academy basic course presenter > shall have a policy prohibiting the use of ethnic shooting targets for any > training, qualification, competition, or other range activities that are > sponsored by the agency or academy, presenter, take place on any agency or > academy presenter property, or involve the participation of any agency or > academy presenter personnel or academy trainees. those attending a basic > course. > > (b) The policy described in subdivision (a) shall also prohibit providing > ethnic shooting targets to any peace officer or trainee basic course > attendee for personal use. > > (c) As used in this section, the following definitions apply: > > (1) "Ethnic shooting target" means any physical range target that depicts a > human form or part of a human form that includes skin colors or facial > features from which a person might reasonably discern a race or ethnicity > of the person depicted. An "ethnic shooting target" does not include a > silhouette target or a human form target with a nonhuman skin color such as > green or blue that does not have facial features. > > How does that improve law enforcement's performance in deadly force > situations? Does it result in better judgment skills? Does it positively > impact the Don’t Shoot/Shoot decision-making process? I'm guessing the targets shown aren't the ones being complained about...