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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 21:04:33 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <v52n3h$2v5s6$1@dont-email.me> References: <v45tec$4q15$1@dont-email.me> <v4el9m$3rsd6$3@i2pn2.org> <v4f3ec$2akmh$2@dont-email.me> <v4g65a$3tn6q$1@i2pn2.org> <v4g6vr$2ic0g$1@dont-email.me> <v4gc0b$3tn6r$6@i2pn2.org> <v4gcjc$2msea$1@dont-email.me> <v4geab$3tn6r$8@i2pn2.org> <v4gg0s$2nim8$2@dont-email.me> <v4ha63$3v16r$2@i2pn2.org> <v4hfq9$2sdqr$5@dont-email.me> <v4hp3r$3viml$1@i2pn2.org> <v4hv85$3021v$1@dont-email.me> <v4ju8f$222a$1@i2pn2.org> <v4k1m4$3f99u$1@dont-email.me> <v4k4mt$3fnqu$1@dont-email.me> <v4maeo$3vv3f$1@dont-email.me> <v4mnim$1qt6$6@dont-email.me> <v4onga$hjo3$3@dont-email.me> <v4pbg4$ln46$1@dont-email.me> <v4rdtp$18al3$1@dont-email.me> <v4rvil$1boeu$2@dont-email.me> <v4s9hj$1dnm7$1@dont-email.me> <v4sa0h$1dk9i$3@dont-email.me> <v4sci6$1ebce$1@dont-email.me> <v4sd35$1eb2f$5@dont-email.me> <v4u3jl$1se49$1@dont-email.me> <v4umvh$1vpm0$7@dont-email.me> <v50d8k$2e51s$1@dont-email.me> <v50dtp$2e5ij$1@dont-email.me> <v51f4t$2k8ar$1@dont-email.me> <v51ge4$2kbbe$2@dont-email.me> <v52mil$jund$6@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:04:33 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d3e479354f6c59f79625e93d556f5bfb"; logging-data="3118982"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19+Yna9y6IKIr1Va6mO001D" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:PN/eE42jgt2CxVzNSQys40C8lcw= In-Reply-To: <v52mil$jund$6@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3540 On 6/20/2024 8:55 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/20/24 11:04 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/20/2024 9:42 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-06-20 05:15:37 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> On 6/20/2024 12:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> >>>>> Sitll inclear whether you know what "termination analyzer" means. >>> >>>> I really don't care what you believe. >>>> It is not about belief. >>>> It is about correct reasoning. >>> >>> No, it is not. It is about language maintenance. If you cannot present >>> your reasoning in Common Language it does not matter whether your >>> reasoning is correct. >>> >> >> I cannot possibly present my reasoning in a convincing way >> to people that have already made up their mind and closed it >> thus fail to trace through each step of this reasoning looking >> for an error and finding none. > > BNo, we are open to new ideas that have an actual factual > >> >> If you simply leap to the false assumption that I am wrong >> yet fail to point out any mistake because there are no mistakes >> this will only convince gullible fools that also lack sufficient >> technical competence. >> > > We don't leap from false assumption, we start with DEFINTIONS. > When it is defined that H(D,D) must report on the behavior of D(D) yet the finite string D cannot be mapped to the behavior of D(D) then the definition is wrong. *You seem to think that textbooks are the word of God* -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer