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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 22:08:47 -0400 Organization: Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgah'nagl Fhtagn. Lines: 84 Message-ID: <v52nbg$2v630$6@dont-email.me> References: <P8OcnfwhaeSXPiT-nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> <v4i2m6$30bm2$1@dont-email.me> <atropos-25D624.12335314062024@news.giganews.com> <v4ih8u$336lr$1@dont-email.me> <atropos-C652A7.15471614062024@news.giganews.com> <17d91fbd5fad865f$338100$533214$2d54864@news.newsdemon.com> <v4kgh9$3i0t8$1@dont-email.me> <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com> <atropos-13D763.17305115062024@news.giganews.com> <v4s1kl$1c3jr$5@dont-email.me> <atropos-B5B6C7.14031818062024@news.giganews.com> <v52jui$2qnl3$9@dont-email.me> <atropos-F5FE4B.18285620062024@news.giganews.com> Reply-To: fredp1571@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:08:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="135701bad7255964217cc25f17b69a9f"; logging-data="3119200"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+C9RRf3jVLxC3oP4D/5520" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:ap9V3swS9LMYFX0TMpIUjqXlPBU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <atropos-F5FE4B.18285620062024@news.giganews.com> Bytes: 5331 On 6/20/24 9:28 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article <v52jui$2qnl3$9@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 6/18/24 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article <v4s1kl$1c3jr$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/15/24 8:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com>, >>>>> trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/15/24 11:46 AM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/15/2024 4:20 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/14/24 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>> The Federal Firearms Act of 1934 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From wiki: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The current National Firearms Act (NFA) defines a number of categories >>>>>>>> of regulated firearms. These weapons are collectively known as NFA >>>>>>>> firearms and include the following: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Machine guns >>>>>>>> "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be >>>>>>>> readily >>>>>>>> restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual >>>>>>>> reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also >>>>>>>> include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed >>>>>>>> and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed >>>>>>>> and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and >>>>>>>> any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if >>>>>>>> such parts are in the possession or under the control of a >>>>>>>> person."[10] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, bump-stocks are patently a "workaround" for a law whose intent is >>>>>>> patently obvious. Not exactly a triumph of sanity. >>>>>> >>>>>> "A work around" is accurate. And the spirit of the law is far more >>>>>> important, obviously, than the letter of the law >>>>> >>>>> Oh, cool! I see Hutt the Fuck-Up Fairy has visited us again! >>>>> >>>>> No, Hutt, you're unsurprisingly about as absolutely wrong as you can be >>>>> yet again. >>>>> >>>>> The letter of the law is obviously paramount in the context of >>>>> jurisprudential determination as evidenced by the 1000-page statutes we >>>>> have coming out of Congress, millions of pages of administrative >>>>> regulations, and the multi-page click-thrus of tiny and >>>>> near-hieroglyphic legalese that you have to agree to just to use a piece >>>>> of software. >>>>> >>>>> If all we needed to concern ourselves with was a law's "spirit", then >>>>> none of that would be necessary. >>>>> >>>>> I'd elaborate further but I don't have the time or the crayons to >>>>> explain it to you. Jeezus, Hutt, if I wanted to kill myself, I'd climb >>>>> your ego and jump to your IQ. >>>>> >>>> And how does using a bump stock differ from a fully automatic machine gun? >>> >>> With a bump stock, for every round fired, a separate trigger pull occurs. >> >> Nope. Both require ONE pull and pressure. You're using the specific >> language "a separate trigger pull occurs" because you KNOW you can't say >> a separate pull of the trigger. > > I don't have to say either one because that's not the language of the > Act. > Because you can't defend it. -- On May 30, 2024 Donald J. Trump was unanimously convicted on 34 felony counts in New York City... so I took this picture in my side yard. https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0 "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC Bible 25B.G. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0