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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) --- Boilerplate Reply Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 22:30:29 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 88 Message-ID: <v52s4l$2vlma$1@dont-email.me> References: <v45tec$4q15$1@dont-email.me> <v4gc0b$3tn6r$6@i2pn2.org> <v4gcjc$2msea$1@dont-email.me> <v4geab$3tn6r$8@i2pn2.org> <v4gg0s$2nim8$2@dont-email.me> <v4ha63$3v16r$2@i2pn2.org> <v4hfq9$2sdqr$5@dont-email.me> <v4hp3r$3viml$1@i2pn2.org> <v4hv85$3021v$1@dont-email.me> <v4ju8f$222a$1@i2pn2.org> <v4k1m4$3f99u$1@dont-email.me> <v4k4mt$3fnqu$1@dont-email.me> <v4maeo$3vv3f$1@dont-email.me> <v4mnim$1qt6$6@dont-email.me> <v4onga$hjo3$3@dont-email.me> <v4pbg4$ln46$1@dont-email.me> <v4rdtp$18al3$1@dont-email.me> <v4rvil$1boeu$2@dont-email.me> <v4s9hj$1dnm7$1@dont-email.me> <v4sa0h$1dk9i$3@dont-email.me> <v4sci6$1ebce$1@dont-email.me> <v4sd35$1eb2f$5@dont-email.me> <v4u3jl$1se49$1@dont-email.me> <v4umvh$1vpm0$7@dont-email.me> <v50d8k$2e51s$1@dont-email.me> <v50dtp$2e5ij$1@dont-email.me> <v51f4t$2k8ar$1@dont-email.me> <v51ge4$2kbbe$2@dont-email.me> <v52mil$jund$6@i2pn2.org> <v52n3h$2v5s6$1@dont-email.me> <v52p32$jund$7@i2pn2.org> <v52pht$2vh9u$1@dont-email.me> <v52qat$jund$9@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d3e479354f6c59f79625e93d556f5bfb"; logging-data="3135178"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18MJRSPy4qSIqt5eUWUknKY" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:fZsn8TF09EzsJJ5YRm56vreRRRM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v52qat$jund$9@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 5210 On 6/20/2024 9:59 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/20/24 10:46 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/20/2024 9:38 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/20/24 10:04 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/20/2024 8:55 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/20/24 11:04 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/20/2024 9:42 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> On 2024-06-20 05:15:37 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6/20/2024 12:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sitll inclear whether you know what "termination analyzer" means. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I really don't care what you believe. >>>>>>>> It is not about belief. >>>>>>>> It is about correct reasoning. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, it is not. It is about language maintenance. If you cannot >>>>>>> present >>>>>>> your reasoning in Common Language it does not matter whether your >>>>>>> reasoning is correct. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I cannot possibly present my reasoning in a convincing way >>>>>> to people that have already made up their mind and closed it >>>>>> thus fail to trace through each step of this reasoning looking >>>>>> for an error and finding none. >>>>> >>>>> BNo, we are open to new ideas that have an actual factual >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you simply leap to the false assumption that I am wrong >>>>>> yet fail to point out any mistake because there are no mistakes >>>>>> this will only convince gullible fools that also lack sufficient >>>>>> technical competence. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We don't leap from false assumption, we start with DEFINTIONS. >>>>> >>>> >>>> When it is defined that H(D,D) must report on the behavior >>>> of D(D) yet the finite string D cannot be mapped to the >>>> behavior of D(D) then the definition is wrong. >>>> >>>> *You seem to think that textbooks are the word of God* >>>> >>> >>> >>> Why do you say it can not be "mapped" >>> >>> Of course it can be mapped by the definition of mapping that decider >>> are supposed to use, as >>> >> >> You need to show every single freaking step of exactly >> DDD correctly emulated by HH0 reaches past its own >> machine address [0000209b] or all you have is BULLSHIT! > > > No, all *YOU* have is BULL-POOP in your head, as NOWHERE, but in your > POOP-filled brain, is there any requirement that the mapping is defined > by the steps of the decider. You just have the problem BACKWARDS, like > most of your logic. > _DDD() [00002093] 55 push ebp [00002094] 8bec mov ebp,esp [00002096] 6893200000 push 00002093 ; push DDD [0000209b] e853f4ffff call 000014f3 ; call HH0 [000020a0] 83c404 add esp,+04 [000020a3] 5d pop ebp [000020a4] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0018) [000020a4] There is no mapping to the behavior of DDD correctly emulated by any x86 emulator based decider that can possibly exist to the behavior of DDD that reaches past its own machine address [0000209b] *you have always know this and lied about it* *I truly hope you repent. I don't want you to be condemned to Hell* -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer