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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
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Subject: Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0
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On 6/21/24 9:01 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/21/2024 2:44 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>> Op 20.jun.2024 om 16:12 schreef olcott:
>>> On 6/20/2024 3:09 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>> Op 20.jun.2024 om 02:00 schreef olcott:
>>>>> This shows all of the steps of HH0 simulating DDD
>>>>> calling a simulated HH0 simulating DDD
>>>>>
>>>>> https://liarparadox.org/HH0_(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf
>>>>> *Some of the key instructions are color coded*
>>>>> GREEN---DebugStep Address
>>>>> RED-----HH Address
>>>>> YELLOW--All of the DDD instructions
>>>>> CYAN----Return from DebugStep to Decide_Halting_HH
>>>>>
>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>> [000020a2] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>> [000020a3] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>> [000020a5] 68a2200000 push 000020a2 ; push DDD
>>>>> [000020aa] e8f3f9ffff call 00001aa2 ; call H0
>>>>> [000020af] 83c404     add esp,+04   ; housekeeping
>>>>> [000020b2] 5d         pop ebp       ; housekeeping
>>>>> [000020b3] c3         ret           ; never gets here
>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [000020b3]
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly which step of DDD emulated by H0 was emulated
>>>>> incorrectly such that this emulation would be complete?
>>>>> AKA DDD emulated by H0 reaches machine address [000020b3]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the simulation of a program with a loop of 5 iterations is 
>>>> aborted after 3 iterations, all instructions are correctly 
>>>> simulated. Nevertheless, it is an incorrect simulation, because it 
>>>> should simulate up to the final state of the program.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It would be helpful if you answer the actual question being asked
>>> right here and thus not answer some other question that was asked
>>> somewhere else.
>>
>> If you do not understand that I answered the question why the 
>> simulation is incorrect, it is hopeless. The question which 
>> instruction is incorrect is not the right question.
>>
> 
> If you say that something is incorrect and can't be specific
> then your rebuttal is pure bluster with no actual basis.
> 
> You need to show every single freaking step of exactly
> DDD correctly emulated by HH0 reaches past its own
> machine address [0000209b] or all you have is BULLSHIT!
> 

Which proves your duplicity, since no one is claiming that.

YOU are the only one coonsered about the strawman of "Correctly 
simulated by H"

> _DDD()
> [00002093] 55               push ebp
> [00002094] 8bec             mov ebp,esp
> [00002096] 6893200000       push 00002093 ; push DDD
> [0000209b] e853f4ffff       call 000014f3 ; call HH0
> [000020a0] 83c404           add esp,+04
> [000020a3] 5d               pop ebp
> [000020a4] c3               ret
> Size in bytes:(0018) [000020a4]
> 
> Maybe I need to make that my boilerplate reply to
> everything that you ever say about anything until
> you admit that you are wrong.
> 

And just prove that you are not intereseted in HONEST dialog, only 
sidetracking rebuttals that you can't handle.