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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0
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On 6/21/2024 10:25 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/21/24 10:44 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/21/2024 9:02 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 6/21/24 9:01 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/21/2024 2:44 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>> Op 20.jun.2024 om 16:12 schreef olcott:
>>>>>> On 6/20/2024 3:09 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>> Op 20.jun.2024 om 02:00 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>> This shows all of the steps of HH0 simulating DDD
>>>>>>>> calling a simulated HH0 simulating DDD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://liarparadox.org/HH0_(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf
>>>>>>>> *Some of the key instructions are color coded*
>>>>>>>> GREEN---DebugStep Address
>>>>>>>> RED-----HH Address
>>>>>>>> YELLOW--All of the DDD instructions
>>>>>>>> CYAN----Return from DebugStep to Decide_Halting_HH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>>>> [000020a2] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [000020a3] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [000020a5] 68a2200000 push 000020a2 ; push DDD
>>>>>>>> [000020aa] e8f3f9ffff call 00001aa2 ; call H0
>>>>>>>> [000020af] 83c404     add esp,+04   ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [000020b2] 5d         pop ebp       ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [000020b3] c3         ret           ; never gets here
>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [000020b3]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Exactly which step of DDD emulated by H0 was emulated
>>>>>>>> incorrectly such that this emulation would be complete?
>>>>>>>> AKA DDD emulated by H0 reaches machine address [000020b3]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the simulation of a program with a loop of 5 iterations is 
>>>>>>> aborted after 3 iterations, all instructions are correctly 
>>>>>>> simulated. Nevertheless, it is an incorrect simulation, because 
>>>>>>> it should simulate up to the final state of the program.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be helpful if you answer the actual question being asked
>>>>>> right here and thus not answer some other question that was asked
>>>>>> somewhere else.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do not understand that I answered the question why the 
>>>>> simulation is incorrect, it is hopeless. The question which 
>>>>> instruction is incorrect is not the right question.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you say that something is incorrect and can't be specific
>>>> then your rebuttal is pure bluster with no actual basis.
>>>>
>>>> You need to show every single freaking step of exactly
>>>> DDD correctly emulated by HH0 reaches past its own
>>>> machine address [0000209b] or all you have is BULLSHIT!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which proves your duplicity, since no one is claiming that.
>>>
>>
>> If you claim that I have made a mistake and cannot point
>> to the exact details of this mistake then everyone will
>> know that you are lying about there being any actual mistake.
> 
> Sure
> 
> First, NO ONE has said that *H* (or what every you are calling your 
> decider today) can correct simulate the input to a final state.
> 

Then you understand that H(D,D) is not even being
asked the question: Does D(D) halt?

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