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From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl>
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Subject: Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0
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Op 21.jun.2024 om 15:01 schreef olcott:
> On 6/21/2024 2:44 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>> Op 20.jun.2024 om 16:12 schreef olcott:
>>> On 6/20/2024 3:09 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>> Op 20.jun.2024 om 02:00 schreef olcott:
>>>>> This shows all of the steps of HH0 simulating DDD
>>>>> calling a simulated HH0 simulating DDD
>>>>>
>>>>> https://liarparadox.org/HH0_(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf
>>>>> *Some of the key instructions are color coded*
>>>>> GREEN---DebugStep Address
>>>>> RED-----HH Address
>>>>> YELLOW--All of the DDD instructions
>>>>> CYAN----Return from DebugStep to Decide_Halting_HH
>>>>>
>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>> [000020a2] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>> [000020a3] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>> [000020a5] 68a2200000 push 000020a2 ; push DDD
>>>>> [000020aa] e8f3f9ffff call 00001aa2 ; call H0
>>>>> [000020af] 83c404     add esp,+04   ; housekeeping
>>>>> [000020b2] 5d         pop ebp       ; housekeeping
>>>>> [000020b3] c3         ret           ; never gets here
>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [000020b3]
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly which step of DDD emulated by H0 was emulated
>>>>> incorrectly such that this emulation would be complete?
>>>>> AKA DDD emulated by H0 reaches machine address [000020b3]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the simulation of a program with a loop of 5 iterations is 
>>>> aborted after 3 iterations, all instructions are correctly 
>>>> simulated. Nevertheless, it is an incorrect simulation, because it 
>>>> should simulate up to the final state of the program.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It would be helpful if you answer the actual question being asked
>>> right here and thus not answer some other question that was asked
>>> somewhere else.
>>
>> If you do not understand that I answered the question why the 
>> simulation is incorrect, it is hopeless. The question which 
>> instruction is incorrect is not the right question.
>>
> 
> If you say that something is incorrect and can't be specific
> then your rebuttal is pure bluster with no actual basis.
> 

If ..., but that condition is not present, so the 'then' does not apply.
This makes the sentence completely superfluous. I would expect better 
from someone who claims to be an experienced programmer.

But since I pointed out in a very detailed way, why it is incorrect, 
your reply shows that you do not understand where you are talking about, 
which then becomes utterly nonsense.

The question which instruction is incorrectly simulated already shows 
your error. The error is not that an instruction is simulated 
incorrectly, but that some instruction are not simulated at all.
Why is that already over your head?