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From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:20:46 -0400
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On 6/21/24 1:02 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v52n7s$2v630$4@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/20/24 9:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v52ki8$2qv7o$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/19/24 9:10 PM, shawn wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:28:26 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <v4vh5f$258cf$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Machine gun:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "...any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily
>>>>>>> restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual
>>>>>>> reloading, by a single function of the trigger."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, tell me again how either gun in my video doesn't qualify...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because with the bump stock, it's only firing one shot per pull of the
>>>>>> trigger. The trigger is just being pulled repeatedly really fast as a
>>>>>> result of rebounding recoil caused by the bump stock. The bumper rocks
>>>>>> the rifle back and forth against the shooter's trigger finger, causing a
>>>>>> separate trigger pull each time. The statute you quoted above clearly
>>>>>> says "by a SINGLE function of the trigger". If you shoot 100 rounds with
>>>>>> a bump stock, you've got 100 functions of the trigger, not a single
>>>>>> function of the trigger.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you are definitely technically correct. (The best kind.) That
>>>>> said you can see why people consider the bump stock to be the
>>>>> equivalent of turning a weapon into an equal to a machine gun. It
>>>>> isn't a machine gun but it ends throwing lead down field much like
>>>>> one. I think eventually the law will be updated to include bump stocks
>>>>> but who knows how long that will take. As no one who was involved in
>>>>> writing the original act likely foresaw the possibility of a bump
>>>>> stock.
>>>>>
>>>> Both still require the same action. A single trigger pull, with
>>>> constant pressure.
>>>
>>> Which isn't the standard under the law. The law's standard is a "single
>>> function of the trigger". As I said above, if you shoot 100 rounds with
>>> a bump stock, you've got 100 functions of the trigger, not a single
>>> function of the trigger.
>>>
>>> A semi-auto rifle physically can't fire more than one round with a
>>> single function of the trigger. It's impossible for a semi-auto rifle to
>>> meet the definition of "machine gun" under the NFA.
>>
>> You keep glossing over the fact that both machine guns and bump stocks
>> require the same action.
> 
> No, I'm focusing on the one thing that legally matters: a single
> function of the trigger. It's literally impossible for a semi-auto rifle
> to fire more than one round with a single function of the trigger. The
> trigger mechanism must complete a full cycle of function for every round
> that leaves the barrel.
> 

Which is what the bump stock facilitates.  The mechanism is different 
from full auto, but both require the same function.  No additional 
action needed.

3 justices said so.  Just because the others were bought and paid for 
doesn't change the fact that the ban could easily have been decided the 
other way, and reasonable people know better.

This court is illegitimate.  I said that when Gorsuch took a stolen 
seat, I said it when 4 or more of them lied at their confirmation 
hearings, I said it when they refused to investigate Kavanaugh, I said 
it when we found out Robert's wife took millions, I said it when Alito 
was caught taking lavish gifts, and I said it when Clarenzabell the 
Klown got caught taking FOUR MILLION DOLLARS in "favors" from his 
"personal friends".

Fuck what they decided on bump stocks.  They turn single shot guns into 
machine guns, and no amount of you nitpicking it changes the result. 
They're rapid fire, and even a dipshit like President Bumblefuck knew 
that, since it was under his administration that they were banned.

When even Donald Trump knows something, that's something any drooling 
imbecile should be able to comprehend.

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