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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rich <rich@example.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Speaking of long-ish passwords Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 16:12:14 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 17 Message-ID: <v56t4u$3quo7$3@dont-email.me> References: <FKXcO.332464$ujOb.302447@fx16.ams4> <v51jpr$2kvgs$2@dont-email.me> <qe5dO.139761$2RJ6.85607@fx05.ams4> <v52np1$2uvck$2@dont-email.me> <VD5dO.139762$2RJ6.117477@fx05.ams4> <v52t0l$3022a$1@dont-email.me> <jzjdO.86399$bHO6.65183@fx06.ams4> <v54nvb$3b20l$1@dont-email.me> <v563fp$3m80k$1@dont-email.me> <v56bpt$3nrg5$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 18:12:15 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="43a00a6c9df3184c62368e08b74e19b2"; logging-data="4029191"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+58ttASnkmF1skObnBn3cQ" User-Agent: tin/2.6.1-20211226 ("Convalmore") (Linux/5.15.139 (x86_64)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Xv/s4eFeO+mUpMTMmj4EzlZGPs4= Bytes: 1854 Oscar <oxxxxxxxxxxxs@gmail.com> wrote: > Op 22-6-2024 om 10:54 schreef Richard Harnden: >> On 21/06/2024 21:31, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> ... generating a >>> complex password from a simple password... >> >> You can't actually increase the entropy >> > > Perhaps, but the recent discussions here seem to boil down to "password > based key derivation functions" which may frustrate bruteforce attacks a > bit. The thread has kind of drifted in that direction. It began as a way to try to "remember" a complex password by encoding it as "something else" such that one might not need to worry should the stazi examine your papers and find the "something else" in your possession.