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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Disc brake maintenance tips Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 13:02:11 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <v5702k$3rglh$2@dont-email.me> References: <v4itti$3979e$1@dont-email.me> <T1cbO.67062$QFj6.41069@fx11.ams4> <v4vm4i$26cnd$1@dont-email.me> <jop67jlu8s63qql60qtp40jlolatseh5bj@4ax.com> <g0v67jdkdq5ctvtdtqqdan0ca7hi1c5k3m@4ax.com> <kem77jtptap3pb34062aj7v685m2gqas2n@4ax.com> <pdmc7j9j6v3ph3hga0nu8krjuhp8gruqvb@4ax.com> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 19:02:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="37c9855b5331bc4d025b576458cd9556"; logging-data="4047537"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19GieyJOP0abrlWc6uy6kioy7vceih+x5M=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:e16tFkBKCncL6UcOxmOKhentAIc= In-Reply-To: <pdmc7j9j6v3ph3hga0nu8krjuhp8gruqvb@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2762 On 6/22/2024 1:05 AM, John B. wrote: > > As I've mentioned before I frequently see a little 6 or 7 year old > girl charging down the street chasing her brother - Very doubtful that > she has read a bicycle "How to do" book. True. Little kids rolling around quiet residential streets don't need to know much. People who don't venture off isolated, flat bike trails don't need to know much. A person's needs depend on what a person wants to accomplish. Also, John Forester used to say that education was not the only way to learn competent bicycling skills. He said that there have always been some who arrived at the best techniques by trial and error - although the "error" bit can obviously be dangerous. There have always been some who learned from others - the classic case being club cyclists who gradually learn by talking to and observing more expert club members. A parallel might be machine shop skills. A sixteen year old kid who watched some professional machinists and snuck into the shop after hours to practice could possibly become halfway competent. But compared to organized training, that's a very inefficient and hazardous way to learn. And I'll note that if a person has not read one of the relevant cycling books and/or not taken one of the relevant cycling courses, they have no idea of the content. They have no idea what they're missing, or dismissing. -- - Frank Krygowski