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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 08:38:08 -0500
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On 6/23/2024 6:28 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/22/24 11:28 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/22/2024 7:14 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 6/22/24 8:01 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct emulation
>>>> is the semantics of the x86 programming language then we see
>>>> that when DDD is correctly emulated by H0 that its call to
>>>> H0(DDD) cannot possibly return.
>>>
>>> Right, so what do you do when you run out of instructions to simulate?
>>>
>>> Your logic just BLOWS UP.
>>>
>>
>> That you are too stupid to see an infinite recursion behavior
>> pattern does not mean that I am not correct.
> 
> Except it is proven to not be the infinite recursion behavior if H0 is a 
> decider.
> 
> Just a finite recursion pattern.
> 
> So, which LIE are you holding to:
> 
> That this is an infinite recursion pattern, when every level of H0 will 
> break the pattern as it is a decider and not let itself go on forever
> 
> That H0 is a decider, because it isn't "smart" enough to see it is 
> caught in an infinte loop an get out of it, so it just fails to answer 
> at ANY level
> 
> That H0 is a "Pure Function" and thus *ALL* calls to it with the same 
> parameters will act the same.
> 
> 
> So, which *LIE* is it?
> 
> 
> (Confirmed liar Peter Olcott)
> 
>>
>>>>
>>>> _DDD()
>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD)
>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> This exposes the LIE of your system. YOu CAN'T correctly x86 emulate 
>>> a partial program, becuase it isn't prpgram with behavior to emulate.
>>>
>>> PERIOD.
>>>
>>> That means, the call to H0(DDD), to have any actual meaning, must 
>>> incluede *ALL* the instrutions in memory that are going to be used as 
>>> part of the input, and thus, DDD is TIED to the H0 that we started 
>>> with, so your "trick" of changing it is shows to just be a LIE.
>>>
>>>
>>> You just don't understand that behavior is determined of an SPECIFIC 
>>> program, a specific instance of the template AFTER pairing it with 
>>> the decider it is to foil, and when you ask about other deciders 
>>> looking at THIS input, the input can't change.
>>>
>>> There goes your two decades down the drain.
>>
> 

_DDD()
[00002172] 55               push ebp
[00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp
[00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH0
[0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d               pop ebp
[00002183] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]

According to the semantics of the x86 programming language
when DDD correctly emulated by H0 calls H0(DDD) this call
cannot possibly return.

Likewise according to the semantics of arithmetic for
decimal integers: 2 + 3 = 5.

Anyone disagreeing with these two statements is WRONG.

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