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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 20:20:11 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 126 Message-ID: <v5ahkc$jgfe$1@dont-email.me> References: <v598l4$c4if$1@dont-email.me> <v59p13$smd5$1@i2pn2.org> <v5a4qc$h08n$1@dont-email.me> <v5a5a1$smd5$6@i2pn2.org> <v5a657$hgsg$1@dont-email.me> <v5a7vs$smd4$2@i2pn2.org> <v5a8hi$hsjd$1@dont-email.me> <v5a9bi$smd4$3@i2pn2.org> <v5abdl$igvh$1@dont-email.me> <v5ac1p$smd4$4@i2pn2.org> <v5add4$isal$1@dont-email.me> <v5aebe$smd4$5@i2pn2.org> <v5aggb$jan3$1@dont-email.me> <v5ah6u$smd5$7@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 03:20:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="30c92b316077fe98558b44dd129a1438"; logging-data="639470"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/9Bv9gcdFn4BOyBq86/EcD" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Q5BHuoP10j7hXim27tTvDZtpKRY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v5ah6u$smd5$7@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 5439 On 6/23/2024 8:13 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/23/24 9:00 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/23/2024 7:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/23/24 8:08 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/23/2024 6:44 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/23/24 7:34 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/23/2024 5:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/23/24 6:45 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You know what the freak I was talking from prior >>>>>>>> discussions unless your brain is so damaged that >>>>>>>> you can't remember anything from one post to the next. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the case that you affirm that your brain <is> >>>>>>>> this damaged then I humbly apologize. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, you don't know what you are talking about. >>>>>>> >>>>>> So you insist on lying about this verified fact? >>>>>> >>>>>> _DDD() >>>>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp >>>>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp >>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD) >>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>>>> >>>>>> According to the semantics of the x86 programming language >>>>>> when DDD correctly emulated by H0 calls H0(DDD) this call >>>>>> cannot possibly return. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I won't say it can't be true, but it hasn't been proven, largely >>>>> because it seems you don't know how to do a formal logic proof. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Liar >>>> >>> >>> Then where is the proof? >>> >>> And were is the simulation that H0 did? >>> >>> Failure to show where you ACTUALLY PROVED it just shows you a liar. >>> >>> Remember the parts of a Formal Logic Proof: >>> >> >> You could disagree that 2 + 3 = 5 on this same Jackass basis. >> 2 + 3 = 5 ON THE FREAKING BASIS OF THE SEMANTICS OF ARITHMETIC. > > But I seen proofs that 2 + 3 = 5 > > And that is done on a proof that uses the semantics of aritmetic. > > The phrase "Semantics of Arithmetic" though, is not a proof. > >> >> According to the semantics of the x86 programming language >> when DDD correctly emulated by H0 calls H0(DDD) this call >> cannot possibly return. >> > > Then try to prove it. > I will not try any prove that 2 + 3 = 5, if you deny it then you are a liar. Likewise for the behavior of DDD correctly simulated by H0. A correct x86 emulator already proved this three years ago and you still try and get away with lying about it. We have gotten it down to this ONLY LIARS WILL DISAGREE THAT MY PROOF IS CORRECT. DDD correctly emulated by H0 DOES NOT HALT. Likewise for P correctly emulated by H. typedef int (*ptr2)(); int H(ptr2 P, ptr2 I); int P(ptr2 x) { int Halt_Status = H(x, x); if (Halt_Status) HERE: goto HERE; return Halt_Status; } int main() { H(P,P); } _P() [000020e2] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [000020e3] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [000020e5] 51 push ecx ; housekeeping [000020e6] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] ; parameter [000020e9] 50 push eax ; push parameter [000020ea] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] ; parameter [000020ed] 51 push ecx ; push parameter [000020ee] e82ff3ffff call 00001422 ; call H(P,P) [000020f3] 83c408 add esp,+08 [000020f6] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax [000020f9] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 [000020fd] 7402 jz 00002101 [000020ff] ebfe jmp 000020ff [00002101] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04] [00002104] 8be5 mov esp,ebp [00002106] 5d pop ebp [00002107] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0038) [00002107] -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer