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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie?
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 22:00:10 -0400
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On 6/23/24 9:36 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/23/2024 8:30 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 6/23/24 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 6/23/2024 8:13 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 6/23/24 9:00 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/23/2024 7:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/23/24 8:08 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/23/2024 6:44 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/23/24 7:34 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/23/2024 5:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/23/24 6:45 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You know what the freak I was talking from prior
>>>>>>>>>>> discussions unless your brain is so damaged that
>>>>>>>>>>> you can't remember anything from one post to the next.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the case that you affirm that your brain <is>
>>>>>>>>>>> this damaged then I humbly apologize.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't know what you are talking about.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you insist on lying about this verified fact?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp
>>>>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp
>>>>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD)
>>>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>>>>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>>>>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> According to the semantics of the x86 programming language
>>>>>>>>> when DDD correctly emulated by H0 calls H0(DDD) this call
>>>>>>>>> cannot possibly return.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I won't say it can't be true, but it hasn't been proven, largely 
>>>>>>>> because it seems you don't know how to do a formal logic proof.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Liar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then where is the proof?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And were is the simulation that H0 did?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Failure to show where you ACTUALLY PROVED it just shows you a liar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember the parts of a Formal Logic Proof:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You could disagree that 2 + 3 = 5 on this same Jackass basis.
>>>>> 2 + 3 = 5 ON THE FREAKING BASIS OF THE SEMANTICS OF ARITHMETIC.
>>>>
>>>> But I seen proofs that 2 + 3 = 5
>>>>
>>>> And that is done on a proof that uses the semantics of aritmetic.
>>>>
>>>> The phrase "Semantics of Arithmetic" though, is not a proof.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the semantics of the x86 programming language
>>>>> when DDD correctly emulated by H0 calls H0(DDD) this call
>>>>> cannot possibly return.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then try to prove it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I will not try any prove that 2 + 3 = 5, if you deny
>>> it then you are a liar.
>>
>> And you don't need to, as it has been done.
>>
>> Now, showing how 2 + 3 = 5 would help show you how to right an actual 
>> proof.
>>
>>>
>>> Likewise for the behavior of DDD correctly simulated
>>> by H0. A correct x86 emulator already proved this three
>>> years ago and you still try and get away with lying about it.
>>
>> Nope. Just a fallacy of proof by example, which isn't a proof.
>>
>>>
>>> We have gotten it down to this ONLY LIARS WILL DISAGREE
>>> THAT MY PROOF IS CORRECT.
>>
>> WHAT PROOF?
>>
>> No proof, just means your statement is just a LIE.
>>
>>>
>>> DDD correctly emulated by H0 DOES NOT HALT.
>>
>> TYPE ERROR.
>>
>> Correct Simutation by H is not part of the definition of HALTING.
>>
>> Just proves your ignorance of what you talk about.
>>
>>
>>> Likewise for P correctly emulated by H.
>>
>> AGAIN TYPE ERROR.
>>
>> Correct Simutation by H is not part of the definition of HALTING.
>>
>> Just proves your ignorance of what you talk about.
>>
>>>
>>> typedef int (*ptr2)();
>>> int H(ptr2 P, ptr2 I);
>>>
>>> int P(ptr2 x)
>>> {
>>>    int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
>>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>>    return Halt_Status;
>>> }
>>>
>>> int main()
>>> {
>>>    H(P,P);
>>> }
>>>
>>> _P()
>>> [000020e2] 55               push ebp         ; housekeeping
>>> [000020e3] 8bec             mov ebp,esp      ; housekeeping
>>> [000020e5] 51               push ecx         ; housekeeping
>>> [000020e6] 8b4508           mov eax,[ebp+08] ; parameter
>>> [000020e9] 50               push eax         ; push parameter
>>> [000020ea] 8b4d08           mov ecx,[ebp+08] ; parameter
>>> [000020ed] 51               push ecx         ; push parameter
>>> [000020ee] e82ff3ffff       call 00001422    ; call H(P,P)
>>> [000020f3] 83c408           add esp,+08
>>> [000020f6] 8945fc           mov [ebp-04],eax
>>> [000020f9] 837dfc00         cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>> [000020fd] 7402             jz 00002101
>>> [000020ff] ebfe             jmp 000020ff
>>> [00002101] 8b45fc           mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>> [00002104] 8be5             mov esp,ebp
>>> [00002106] 5d               pop ebp
>>> [00002107] c3               ret
>>> Size in bytes:(0038) [00002107]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> And, P(P) Halts since you have indicated that H(P,P) to returns 0.
>>
>> VERIFIED FACT.
>>
> 
> A verified fact to a God damned liar.

Nope, actual verified fact, one YOU have even proven and agreed to.

SO, I guess you are just showing you are just a LIAR.


> 
> The actual verified fact is that when P is correctly emulated
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