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From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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Subject: Re: China reveals fusion tech breakthrough
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 05:04:53 GMT
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On a sunny day (Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:04:08 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <v59dcq$cugf$1@dont-email.me>:

>On 6/23/24 07:20, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> China reveals fusion tech breakthrough:
>>   https://www.rt.com/news/599707-china-fusion-tech-tokamak-plasma/
>>    A commercial ‘artificial sun’ has achieved its first plasma discharge,
>>    the developer says
>> If you have trouble accessing the link because of censorship by your polly-tick-sisons
>> revolt!
>> 
>> <partial quote from article>
>>   According to the developers, as cited by Chinese media,
>>   the HH70 tokamak is smaller and cheaper to assemble than its predecessors.
>>   The device uses a magnetic system made from high-temperature superconducting material,
>>   commonly known as REBCO (Rare Earth Barium Copper Oxide).
>> 
>>   It can reportedly be manufactured on a large scale,
>>   reducing the cost of Energy Singularity’s tokamaks.
>>   Moreover, the HH70 device, according to the company,
>>   is only 2% the size of conventional tokamaks  – providing a major advantage
>>   in the race to produce a commercially viable device.
>> <end quote>
>> 
>> Well that's it for ITER then!
>> 
>
>A plasma discharge is a breakthrough? I can do that in
>my microwave oven.

One can do fusion in a small tube
look up Farnsworth fusor:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor

I wanted to build one but was lacking space and screening material.
You can make a nice neutron beam that way.
Break-even could perhaps be achieved with the polywell:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywell

I have always said, and now again:
 "If you cannot do it with those tiny particle at the desktop
then you cannot do it with a machine the size of the universe."
So ITER just a politics money sink to keep onestonian parrots busy
and give industry something to do payed for by the tax payer.
The Chinese are smart enough to improve the tokamak,
But all is always 30 years into the future and has always been.
I do get some power from my solar cells here.
Same for CERN.
I was watching some of these science programs and it was about the size of the electron
We still do not know its size....
In fact there are now so many 'elementary' particles I have to admit
I have no clue.
Maybe humanity / science is missing some essential thing here.
Was going through Planck's constant, versions of 'h'' etc yesterday
If humanity persists long enough would it not be fun to see what it all would look like a thousand years from now, science I mean.
Every day we work with electrons and so little we know about those.
Anyways those CERN tunnels make perhaps a nice bomb shelter in WW3
your are safe! Get enoug food and water for the long run though.
I also do read alt.survival it seems these days...