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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Baby X is bor nagain Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 13:46:22 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <v5bmae$thpd$2@dont-email.me> References: <v494f9$von8$1@dont-email.me> <v4pei3$m5th$2@dont-email.me> <v4plsk$nn9o$2@dont-email.me> <v4pnq6$o4fs$1@dont-email.me> <v4q245$si2n$1@dont-email.me> <v4q2rl$sqk3$1@dont-email.me> <v52308$2nli8$3@dont-email.me> <v53i4s$33k73$2@dont-email.me> <v53lf7$34huc$1@dont-email.me> <v53vh6$368vf$1@dont-email.me> <v54se1$3bqsk$1@dont-email.me> <v5948h$bale$1@dont-email.me> <v59p2j$eodu$1@dont-email.me> <v5a2tk$gouo$1@dont-email.me> <v5acfs$imuh$1@dont-email.me> <v5aee8$irp6$1@dont-email.me> <Ru3eO.139817$iz_6.69528@fx14.iad> <v5bao4$r66u$2@dont-email.me> <v5bkkt$svuf$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 13:46:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="995058d498c537c0d70be20402ad0eb4"; logging-data="968493"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18EL0A/YV6vG35BqR9dgYV6igFwLtvgvN0=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:/IS7NDBuP9aNKtms59BS/2YokCc= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <v5bkkt$svuf$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3008 On 24/06/2024 13:17, bart wrote: > On 24/06/2024 09:28, David Brown wrote: >> On 24/06/2024 02:56, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes: >>>> On 24/06/2024 00:52, Malcolm McLean wrote: >>> >>>>> 43 seconds compile time is getting to be a bit of a problem. But >>>>> not for >>>>> the final build. Only for intermediate builds. >>>> >>>> That isn't the issue here (it could have been 4.3 seconds vs 1.7 >>>> seconds). >>>> >>>> David Brown was claiming there was little difference (15%, although on >>>> the 34.3s and 30.8s timings, it is actually 11% not 15%) between >>>> optimised and unoptimised builds, whereas I have always seen >>>> substantial >>>> differences like 100% or more. >> >> I think the main problem is that Bart doesn't understand what "builds" >> are. And he doesn't understand the relevance - or irrelevance - of >> compile times while developing software, and how they relate to >> /build/ times or /development/ time. I don't care how long it takes >> to compile a file - I care how long the build takes. > > I've been building programs for approaching half a century, and I've > been developing tools do so for most of that. > > Do you really thing I don't know what a 'build' is? Given your decade (at least) old battle to misunderstand the most commonly used build tool, yes.