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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Why do people here insist on denying these verified facts? Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 08:50:20 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <v5btit$v0vb$5@dont-email.me> References: <v56n8h$3pr25$1@dont-email.me> <v58ql8$9g3i$1@dont-email.me> <v597ju$brmn$2@dont-email.me> <v5b7f8$qu74$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 15:50:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="30c92b316077fe98558b44dd129a1438"; logging-data="1016811"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/F1+wyl8a7hiCMVLQkRYER" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:xvqr954oNYxCVE/j+Jhce5VNXzw= In-Reply-To: <v5b7f8$qu74$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2112 On 6/24/2024 2:32 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-06-23 13:23:10 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 6/23/2024 4:42 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> When the head line has the words "these verified facts" the message >>> should >>> first tell what facts are "these verified facts" and who verified them >>> before any further discussion. >>> >> >> It is a verified fact that 2 + 3 = 5 according to the semantics >> of arithmetic. Anyone having an opinion that contradicts this is WRONG. > > Sure, but that was not the first thing mentioned in the initial message. > int P(ptr2 x) { int Halt_Status = H(x, x); if (Halt_Status) HERE: goto HERE; return Halt_Status; } The call from P to H(P,P) when P is correctly emulated by H cannot possibly return. The call from P to H(P,P) when P is correctly emulated by H1 DOES return. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer