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From: The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com>
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Subject: Re: Dave Yadallee denies reality, bears false witness
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 13:50:49 -0000 (UTC)
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The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <v5bqo1$ui17$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor  <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <v5b65r$qlkm$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor  <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>> In article <v59d2o$cuhv$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> The Last Doctor  <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <v58s9j$9pl4$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> The Last Doctor  <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It doesn’t really matter whether the Holy Spirit or Jesus’s
>> ghost said
>>>>>>>> that Barnabas and Saul were the servants of God, or who to, or if
>>>>>>>> it ever happened at all and wasn’t just added to give Barnabas
>>>>>>>> and Saul more authority in the Church.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Words spoken by Paul to the Romans remain the words of Paul,
>>>>>>>> not the words of Jesus. Paul wasn’t just a mouthpiece of 
>>>>>>>> Jesus, he was an agent of change. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Some of his teachings are very different from the teachings of
>> Jesus. Jesus
>>>>>>>> taught about loving God and salvation through good works. Paul
>> taught about
>>>>>>>> worshipping Jesus and the power of faith alone (with no good behaviours
>>>>>>>> required) being enough for salvation. He created a religion focused on a
>>>>>>>> cult of personality, primarily his own personality.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In fact, though Paul seems to idolise Jesus, nowhere in his
>> epistles or in
>>>>>>>> the descriptions of his work does he seem to quote Jesus at all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Flse staement MM!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you remember how you prove people wrong, and are not just making stuff
>>>>>> up Dave? I’m saying it’s not there, so obviously I couldn’t
>>>> find limited
>>>>>> proof positive of my position - all of Acts and all of Paul’s
>> letters is as
>>>>>> close as I can come.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You, however, have a choice - you can either claim without evidence that
>>>>>> I’ve made a false statement - which is possibly a lie on your
>> part - or you
>>>>>> use your deep knowledge of the Bible to find chapter and verse where Paul
>>>>>> quotes Jesus’ teachings, crediting Jesus for the thoughts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wonder which you will choose to do? I have of course only a couple of
>>>>>> decades of examples of your lies, mendacity and inability to find evidence
>>>>>> of most of what you believe in the Bible (because it’s not
>> there), but if I
>>>>>> was a betting man I’d put down a considerable sum on none of your
>> responses
>>>>>> containing a relevant chapter and verse.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Still blowing hot air I see.
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, are you? OK. Well when you’re done blowing hot air, try filling out the
>>>> following form:
>>>> 
>>>> Q: Please provide a quote from the Bible where Jesus himself condemns
>>>> homosexuals, as claimed by notorious liar Dave Yadallee.
>>>> 
>>>> Book:
>>>> 
>>>> Chapter:
>>>> 
>>>> Verse(s):
>>>> 
>>>> Alternatively, the response “There is no such passage” is acceptable.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, mike McKeown cannot make a logical joint the dots.
>> 
>> I don’t want to joint any dots. I don’t even know how to portion a dot.
>> Maybe I could spatchdot one?
>> 
>> It’s OK Dave. Since you haven’t provided a reference, we understand that
>> your answer is “There is no such reference and I, Dave Yadallee, was lying
>> when I made the claim”.
>> 
>> Thank you for clearing this up.
>> 
> 
> Lies Mike McKeown.

No, no, Dave. 

If I was a liar, the reference would exist and you would quote it to prove
me a liar. You not giving the reference means it doesn’t exist, and you’re
the liar. That’s how evidence works.

What you’re doing is name calling, and of course, as you have no evidence,
Christianity calls that “bearing false witness”.

Learn the difference. Reference, or you are the liar.

If I was telling you that there was a passage in the Bible that said
something specific, I would find it and quote it. Exodus 20:16 is the quote
that applies here:

“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.”

See what I did there? Book, chapter and verse. Now you try. 

-- 
“Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.”  - The Doctor