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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: RE: Re: Bicycle physics question Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 10:00:34 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 112 Message-ID: <v5c1mi$vogi$2@dont-email.me> References: <v4qjk1$vle9$1@dont-email.me> <led37j9o09vdf8h1gsvuhnls0qg95me29k@4ax.com> <v4vmmb$25qk1$2@dont-email.me> <v4vu5i$27l91$1@dont-email.me> <v50rcg$1vi9i$1@dont-email.me> <v51h6m$2kh16$1@dont-email.me> <v51hps$2kmdm$1@dont-email.me> <v51t2j$2mqdt$1@dont-email.me> <3t1dO.67688$iz_6.61114@fx14.iad> <v52aau$2pa8q$1@dont-email.me> <v53gcs$33h30$1@dont-email.me> <inhdO.81790$eX68.21141@fx18.iad> <rEmdO.30024$ikOc.17742@fx10.ams4> <v56h4t$33h30$2@dont-email.me> <oofeO.25963$xTZ2.25053@fx46.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 17:00:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6e847d78222c34fa508656adc461a7ac"; logging-data="1040914"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX197kLD1fU3I+cV7bC0as8SE" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:eJf57naHtcFlaZ78HZS54UEgn4Y= In-Reply-To: <oofeO.25963$xTZ2.25053@fx46.iad> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 6349 On 6/24/2024 9:28 AM, Tom Kunich wrote: > On Sat Jun 22 08:47:25 2024 zen cycle wrote: >>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On Fri Jun 21 05:16:11 2024 zen cycle wrote: >>>>> On 6/20/2024 6:26 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>>> On 6/20/2024 4:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you are riding a bike you are gaining and losing energy via the >>>>>>> motion of the CG of the bike in the depth of the gravity field. You >>>>>>> are also losing more energy in a turn from tire forces. Because the >>>>>>> depth of the gravity field is so deep and the change of the CG change >>>>>>> of the bike is so slight you can only talk about the gains and loses >>>>>>> theoretically. The loses from the tire shape into and out of a turn >>>>>>> are more significant. But under normal conditions those are so slight >>>>>>> that only racers can detect them because of the speed required to make >>>>>>> signficant scrubbing actions detectable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With a motorcycle it is easier to detect because of the much larger >>>>>>> speed differentials and the much wider tires with consequen5tial >>>>>>> inccrease in scrubbing energy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gravity field? >>>>>> Is that like a corn field or more of a force field? >>>>> >>>>> no, the gravity field is what causes the tire sealant to stay at the >>>>> bottom of the tire when the bike is moving, causes dents to pop out of >>>>> bike tubes while riding the bike and renders aluminum oxide flammable. >>>>> Different laws of physics in tommyworld, dontchaknow.... >>>> >>>> Why do you continue to show that you haven't even a passing understanding >>>> of physics. >> >> I understand the physics of this planet quite well. What I (as well of >> the rest of us here) don't understand is what the physics on your planet >> are like. >> >>>> Toyota is about to release a motor that runs on WATER. It >>>> separates the hydrogen fromn the oxygen and then recombines them for >>>> energy. >> >> And? what does that have to do with anything we're discussing? Attempt >> at distraction duly noted and summarily dismissed as an attempt at >> distraction. >> >>>> I realize that with your very elementary understanding of physics >>>> that you will say that isn't possible but perhaps you can address that to >>>> Toyota, >> >> No, shit-fer-brains, I wouldn't. Because unlike you, I actually do >> understand the physics of this planet. >> >>>> I won't even try to explain how you can get aluminum oxide to >>>> burn and create energy >> >> Because you can't. Provide just one reference showing the inherent >> flammability of aluminum oxide. Here, I'll start: >> >> https://www.chemicalbook.com/msds/aluminum-oxide.htm >> Page 9 - "Flammability (solid, gas): The product is not flammable." >> >> Would you like another? >> https://www.buehler.com/assets/SDS/US/1339775_A_Aluminum-Oxide-Powder_EN.PDF >> Page ten "NFPA Health hazards 1 flammability 0" >> >> Just so ya know, "flammability 0" means the National Fire Prevention >> Association considers Al2O3 not flammable. >> >> https://gstresult.com/is-aluminum-oxide-flammable/ >> "Is aluminum oxide flammable? >> No, aluminum oxide is not flammable. It is a non-combustible material, >> meaning it does not catch fire or support combustion." >> >>>> since you can't even explain how a wire length >>>> could be measure with a PWM signal. >> >> I could describe a method, but you failed miserably. Your lame >> explanation of some how using a single channel on an oscilloscope and >> manually aligning a a reflected signal by altering pulse width is >> complete nonsense. You weren't describing PWM, you were attempting to >> describe TDR, and got it horribly wrong (as usual). And no, PWM is not >> required for generating a TDR pulse. >> >>>> Your absolute ignirance is breaqqthtaking considering that you have a job >>>> as an engineer. >> >> "ignirance is breaqqthtaking"....I'll just leave that there. >> >>>> Good thing that it isn't any more complex than signing >>>> off on the QC of a batch of devices. >> >> Which is all we need to know about your level of understanding about >> HazLoc engineering. >> >> > > > > > Flunky, do you actually think that you're going to fool people into thinking that you are smart by using seldom used terms which are completely covered in the Underwriters Laboratories rules that insurance companies demand adherance to? Some day in the far distant future you are going to grow up. Or not. It's a regulatory term (which appears on your OSHA complaint right before the fine/remediation parts). If you aren't supervisory or management you might not have heard it. https://blog.junipersys.com/hazloc/ -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971