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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: Disc brake maintenance tips
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 11:34:48 -0400
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On 6/24/2024 9:26 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 6/23/2024 9:13 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 6/23/2024 8:40 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>
>>> In fairness, Mr Forester wrote a very long time ago and assumed 
>>> automobile pilots were neither homicidal maniacs nor stoned out of 
>>> their minds. This isn't as true now. He also wrote before walk-around 
>>> telephones; now every other driver is consumed with denigrating some 
>>> kid in a chatroom with his thumbs while wandering across lane lines...
>>
>> I don't see that things have changed that much. And I certainly don't 
>> see that I should abandon the techniques that I've found have worked 
>> so well.
>>
>> Example: When I use the four-lane that enters our village, I ride lane 
>> center. It makes me much more visible and _relevant_ to motorists 
>> coming up from behind me, or those going the opposite direction. It 
>> helps get their attention. It works.
>>
>> If some chick is texting her girlfriend, should I ride in a way that 
>> I'm _less_ noticeable? I don't think so. She has to glance up at least 
>> occasionally. I want her to think "Holy cow, I've got to avoid that 
>> guy on a bike" instead of "Aw, he's far enough to the side, I think I 
>> can squeeze around."
>>
> 
> Well, again 'works for you'.  In Oakland, where 1 out of every 39 
> residents were carjacked or had a car stolen last year, the mix of 
> pilots is different...
> 
> https://sfstandard.com/2023/09/26/oakland-car-theft-spikes-san-francisco-bay-area-car-thefts-up-some/

I don't doubt that there are bad places. But the disagreement between 
pro-VC and anti-VC contingents is (or should be) "What works best?"

ISTM anti-VC folks are two main camps. The larger one is "I gotta never 
ever inconvenience a motorist, so I gotta ride inches from the edge, and 
ride on the sidewalk, and maybe stop if a car come. Oh, and traffic laws 
don't apply to bikes."

The second camp says "Riding a bike on any normal road is just too 
dangerous. We need to spend fortunes on 'innovative' bike chutes so 
anyone 8 to 80 can ride wherever they go. Then bike use will soar and 
our cities will finally be saved!" (The second group is nuttier than the 
first.)

Meanwhile, people who are competent at VC techniques are riding where 
they like with almost zero problems. They find it just works.

-- 
- Frank Krygowski