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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 19:24:38 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <v5cv7m$10m6p$3@i2pn2.org> References: <v4vrfg$2793f$1@dont-email.me> <v58m12$8mmo$1@dont-email.me> <v59797$brmn$1@dont-email.me> <v5b7nv$qvrb$1@dont-email.me> <v5btf3$v0vb$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 23:24:38 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1071321"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v5btf3$v0vb$4@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3138 Lines: 53 On 6/24/24 9:48 AM, olcott wrote: > On 6/24/2024 2:37 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-06-23 13:17:27 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 6/23/2024 3:22 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> The subject line is not quite correct. The execution trace is not >>>> 195 pages long, only 159 pages. In the beginning of the file there >>>> is other material, mainly several disaasembled functions, many of >>>> which do nothing. >>>> >>>> Several points in the trace are incorrect. >>>> >>>> On 2024-06-20 00:00:48 +0000, olcott said: >>>> >>>>> This shows all of the steps of HH0 simulating DDD >>>>> calling a simulated HH0 simulating DDD >>>>> >>>>> https://liarparadox.org/HH0_(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf >>>>> *Some of the key instructions are color coded* >>>>> GREEN---DebugStep Address >>>>> RED-----HH Address >>>>> YELLOW--All of the DDD instructions >>>>> CYAN----Return from DebugStep to Decide_Halting_HH >>>>> >>>>> _DDD() >>>>> [000020a2] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>> [000020a3] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>> [000020a5] 68a2200000 push 000020a2 ; push DDD >>>>> [000020aa] e8f3f9ffff call 00001aa2 ; call H0 >>>>> [000020af] 83c404 add esp,+04 ; housekeeping >>>>> [000020b2] 5d pop ebp ; housekeeping >>>>> [000020b3] c3 ret ; never gets here >>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [000020b3] >>>> >>>> That code is not from the mentined trace file. In that file _DDD() >>>> is at the addresses 2093..20a4. According to the trace no instruction >>>> at the address is executed (because that address points to the last >>>> byte >>>> of a three byte instruction. >>> >>> In order to make my examples I must edit the code >>> and this changes the addresses of some functions. >> >> Why do you need to make an example when you already have one >> in the file mentioned in the subject line? >> > > I had to make a few more examples such as HH1(DD,DD) > Why? And why not show the actual trace that the decider makes, as opposed to the trace of the decider itself.