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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:55:08 -0500
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On 6/24/2024 7:54 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/24/24 8:34 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/24/2024 7:06 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 6/24/24 8:02 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/24/2024 6:59 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 6/24/24 7:43 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/24/2024 6:19 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/24/24 9:42 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/24/2024 6:02 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/23/24 11:26 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/23/2024 10:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/23/24 10:52 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for the next 10,000 messages if you really want to look
>>>>>>>>>> foolish that long.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Go ahead, stall your argument till you die.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no sense moving on to the next point until AFTER
>>>>>>>> you quit lying about this point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _P()
>>>>>>>> [000020e2] 55               push ebp         ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [000020e3] 8bec             mov ebp,esp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [000020e5] 51               push ecx         ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [000020e6] 8b4508           mov eax,[ebp+08] ; parameter
>>>>>>>> [000020e9] 50               push eax         ; push parameter
>>>>>>>> [000020ea] 8b4d08           mov ecx,[ebp+08] ; parameter
>>>>>>>> [000020ed] 51               push ecx         ; push parameter
>>>>>>>> [000020ee] e82ff3ffff       call 00001422    ; call H(P,P)
>>>>>>>> [000020f3] 83c408           add esp,+08
>>>>>>>> [000020f6] 8945fc           mov [ebp-04],eax
>>>>>>>> [000020f9] 837dfc00         cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>>>>>>> [000020fd] 7402             jz 00002101
>>>>>>>> [000020ff] ebfe             jmp 000020ff
>>>>>>>> [00002101] 8b45fc           mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>>>>>>> [00002104] 8be5             mov esp,ebp
>>>>>>>> [00002106] 5d               pop ebp
>>>>>>>> [00002107] c3               ret
>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0038) [00002107]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The call from P to H(P,P) when P is correctly emulated
>>>>>>>> by H cannot possibly return.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And my reply, like always, So?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since you are such a damned liar I am not going to give
>>>>>> you two different points to endlessly switch back and forth
>>>>>> between. I am going to keep repeating this point to prove
>>>>>> what a damned liar you really are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the LIE?
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems YOU are the LIAR.
>>>>>
>>>>>> void DDD()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>    H0(DDD);
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD)
>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The call from DDD to H0(DDD) when DDD is correctly emulated
>>>>>> by H0 cannot possibly return.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once we have closure on this point we can move on to
>>>>>> the last point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And what do we care about it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *It is the only thing that you will get to talk to me about*
>>>> *It is the only thing that you will get to talk to me about*
>>>> *It is the only thing that you will get to talk to me about*
>>>> *It is the only thing that you will get to talk to me about*
>>>>
>>>
>>> Good, so you are admitting you have nothing important to say.
>>
>> I do correctly refute the halting problem proofs and
>> mandate mutual agreement on each step before I will
>> proceed to the next step.
> 
> Nope, you never have because you never use the definition of HALTING, 
> but insist you get to LIE about what halting is.
> 
> You are just talking about your POOP.
> 
> You are just to stupid to understand what you are talking about.
> 
>>
>> *I caught you in your lies and there you remain trapped*
>> *I caught you in your lies and there you remain trapped*
>> *I caught you in your lies and there you remain trapped*
>>
>>
> 
> Where?

*We can get to that as soon as you reverse your lie*
*We can get to that as soon as you reverse your lie*
*We can get to that as soon as you reverse your lie*

You said that D correctly simulated by H must
have the behavior of the directly executed D(D).

D correctly simulated by H does not have the same behavior
as the directly executed D(D) because

the call from D to H(D,D) cannot possibly return when D
is correctly simulated by H.

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer