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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 06:57:42 -0000 (UTC)
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 06:33:14 -0000 (UTC), Sebastian Wells wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 05:54:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 19 May 2024 09:03:06 -0000 (UTC), Sebastian wrote:
>> 
>>> Even Devuan, whose reason for existence is to be a Systemd-free
>>> Debian, had to use a fork of systemd-logind rather than just handling
>>> sessions the pre-Systemd way, because so many things have been made to
>>> depend on it.
>> 
>> Surely they could come up with their own system for handling login
>> sessions. Just start with the code from before systemd came along.
> 
> The problem is that Devuan is still based on Debian, so they have to
> constantly take new Systemd-based packages from Debian and make them
> work without Systemd. They will probably be overwhelmed at some point,
> and then the entire distro will collapse.

I wonder why that would happen? I thought there was a huge crowd of people 
who hated systemd, who would be happy to support such a distro. Isn’t that 
the case?

> Those of us who still refuse to run Systemd will have no choice but to
> install a BSD operating system.

Fun fact: some in the BSD world are working on their own systemd-
lookalike. It’s called “InitWare”.