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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Why do people here insist on denying these verified facts?
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 08:19:46 -0500
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On 6/25/2024 4:48 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-06-24 14:03:12 +0000, immibis said:
> 
>> On 24/06/24 15:50, olcott wrote:
>>> On 6/24/2024 2:32 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-06-23 13:23:10 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/23/2024 4:42 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> When the head line has the words "these verified facts" the 
>>>>>> message should
>>>>>> first tell what facts are "these verified facts" and who verified 
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> before any further discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a verified fact that 2 + 3 = 5 according to the semantics
>>>>> of arithmetic. Anyone having an opinion that contradicts this is 
>>>>> WRONG.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, but that was not the first thing mentioned in the initial 
>>>> message.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> int P(ptr2 x)
>>> {
>>>   int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
>>>   if (Halt_Status)
>>>     HERE: goto HERE;
>>>   return Halt_Status;
>>> }
>>>
>>> The call from P to H(P,P) when P is correctly emulated
>>> by H cannot possibly return.
>>>
>>> The call from P to H(P,P) when P is correctly emulated
>>> by H1 DOES return.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Verified fact: the emulation is incorrect
> 
> But which emulation? By H or by H1?
> 

Both of them are correct.
Because P never calls H1(P,P) and P does call H(P,P)
the call from P to H(P,P) returns in the first case
and cannot possibly return in the second case.

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