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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.szaf.org!news.karotte.org!news.space.net!news.muc.de!.POSTED.news.muc.de!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 Followup-To: comp.theory Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:46:47 -0000 (UTC) Organization: muc.de e.V. Message-ID: <v5eho7$24l4$1@news.muc.de> References: <v45tec$4q15$1@dont-email.me> <v4sa0h$1dk9i$3@dont-email.me> <v4sci6$1ebce$1@dont-email.me> <v4sd35$1eb2f$5@dont-email.me> <v4u3jl$1se49$1@dont-email.me> <v4umvh$1vpm0$7@dont-email.me> <v50d8k$2e51s$1@dont-email.me> <v50dtp$2e5ij$1@dont-email.me> <v51f4t$2k8ar$1@dont-email.me> <v51ge4$2kbbe$2@dont-email.me> <v539bk$329sv$1@dont-email.me> <v53upb$35vak$6@dont-email.me> <v575pl$3sg5p$1@dont-email.me> <v5767s$3soh6$1@dont-email.me> <v5e28t$11urb$5@i2pn2.org> <v5eg03$1ikpr$2@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:46:47 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.muc.de; posting-host="news.muc.de:2001:608:1000::2"; logging-data="70308"; mail-complaints-to="news-admin@muc.de" User-Agent: tin/2.6.3-20231224 ("Banff") (FreeBSD/14.0-RELEASE-p5 (amd64)) Bytes: 2554 Lines: 36 [ Followup-To: set ] In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/25/2024 4:22 AM, joes wrote: >> Am Sat, 22 Jun 2024 13:47:24 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 6/22/2024 1:39 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>> Op 21.jun.2024 om 15:21 schreef olcott: >>> When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct emulation is the >>> semantics of the x86 programming language then we see that when DDD is >>> correctly emulated by H0 that its call to H0(DDD) cannot possibly >>> return. >> Yes. Which is wrong, because H0 should terminate. [ .... ] > The call from DDD to H0(DDD) when DDD is correctly emulated > by H0 cannot possibly return. > Until you acknowledge this is true, this is the > only thing that I am willing to talk to you about. I think you are talking at cross purposes. Joes's point is that H0 should terminate because it's a decider. You're saying that when H0 is "correctly" emulating, it won't terminate. I don't recall seeing anybody arguing against that. So you're saying, in effect, H0 is not a decider. I don't think anybody else would argue against that, either. > -- > Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).