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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 09:03:38 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 61 Message-ID: <v5einq$1j1no$1@dont-email.me> References: <v45tec$4q15$1@dont-email.me> <v4sa0h$1dk9i$3@dont-email.me> <v4sci6$1ebce$1@dont-email.me> <v4sd35$1eb2f$5@dont-email.me> <v4u3jl$1se49$1@dont-email.me> <v4umvh$1vpm0$7@dont-email.me> <v50d8k$2e51s$1@dont-email.me> <v50dtp$2e5ij$1@dont-email.me> <v51f4t$2k8ar$1@dont-email.me> <v51ge4$2kbbe$2@dont-email.me> <v539bk$329sv$1@dont-email.me> <v53upb$35vak$6@dont-email.me> <v575pl$3sg5p$1@dont-email.me> <v5767s$3soh6$1@dont-email.me> <v5e28t$11urb$5@i2pn2.org> <v5eg03$1ikpr$2@dont-email.me> <v5eho7$24l4$1@news.muc.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:03:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="422dd2162c45ab1a09b084523bb5ca66"; logging-data="1672952"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19roolphLSyoinT1cGRKZry" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:R5hgCNYSH/JcEPUUde+NRecO46E= In-Reply-To: <v5eho7$24l4$1@news.muc.de> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3651 On 6/25/2024 8:46 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > [ Followup-To: set ] > > In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 6/25/2024 4:22 AM, joes wrote: >>> Am Sat, 22 Jun 2024 13:47:24 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 6/22/2024 1:39 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>> Op 21.jun.2024 om 15:21 schreef olcott: > >>>> When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct emulation is the >>>> semantics of the x86 programming language then we see that when DDD is >>>> correctly emulated by H0 that its call to H0(DDD) cannot possibly >>>> return. >>> Yes. Which is wrong, because H0 should terminate. > > [ .... ] > >> The call from DDD to H0(DDD) when DDD is correctly emulated >> by H0 cannot possibly return. > >> Until you acknowledge this is true, this is the >> only thing that I am willing to talk to you about. > > I think you are talking at cross purposes. Joes's point is that H0 > should terminate because it's a decider. We must go though my points one-at-a-time and in order otherwise we continue to talk in circles for 15 years as I did with Ben. We can get to Joes point only after my point is acknowledged as correct. I am unwilling to play head games with people that deny verified facts. I am unwilling to talk in endless circles. I must get 100% complete closure on each point before moving on to the next point. > You're saying that when H0 is > "correctly" emulating, it won't terminate. I don't recall seeing anybody > arguing against that. > Not at all. I am not tolerating talking about that point until after we have 100% closure on the prior point. > So you're saying, in effect, H0 is not a decider. I don't think anybody > else would argue against that, either. > I never said anything like that. It is all a matter of me not tolerating the slightest nuance of any head games what-so-ever. >> -- >> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer > -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer