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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Disc brake maintenance tips Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 11:34:18 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <v5eo1q$1k3fd$1@dont-email.me> References: <v4vm4i$26cnd$1@dont-email.me> <jop67jlu8s63qql60qtp40jlolatseh5bj@4ax.com> <g0v67jdkdq5ctvtdtqqdan0ca7hi1c5k3m@4ax.com> <kem77jtptap3pb34062aj7v685m2gqas2n@4ax.com> <pdmc7j9j6v3ph3hga0nu8krjuhp8gruqvb@4ax.com> <v5702k$3rglh$2@dont-email.me> <ea2e7jdm5ttol2ekfakg8lq1cvobkaa52q@4ax.com> <v573rl$3rt4r$3@dont-email.me> <276e7jhug22rd9mn8pn3no2l6rqfm7rt38@4ax.com> <v57r3j$hc6$1@dont-email.me> <4dlf7jpr04ludth2uvc7v4nbdc4f7aguki@4ax.com> <v59bqc$cir2$3@dont-email.me> <4peh7jds7q52sbdfei4rile29egc94hgqk@4ax.com> <v5afah$j22n$1@dont-email.me> <v5ako2$nid4$5@dont-email.me> <v5bs67$um0n$2@dont-email.me> <v5c3mp$103ps$2@dont-email.me> <adkeO.59254$yMc7.22919@fx09.ams4> <v5d4p7$16kh5$3@dont-email.me> <8vveO.482643$ujOb.211902@fx16.ams4> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:34:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="05a971a52961f4e5ea828d54abcd210b"; logging-data="1707501"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/siww65RqMkkxttpdu1DBC6AqAx9uNU7I=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vgO/XU0w/EI8L81/ujJlYnB3n38= In-Reply-To: <8vveO.482643$ujOb.211902@fx16.ams4> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3342 On 6/25/2024 4:48 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: > Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> I'm sure Youngstown's bike mode share is minuscule, just like almost all >> U.S. cities. Remember, the national average is far below one percent. >> And despite all the "innovative" segregated infrastructure, it's falling. >> > Again national mode share particularly the US with a significant rural > population is not a useful metric. > > Cities are where it’s at, and probably 5 mile or less journeys. That may be true. But data for U.S. cities is not much better. I frequent four or five medium to large U.S. cities. Only one has a noticeable amount of bike use, and the great bulk of that is connected with several inner-city colleges. Two others have extensive bike lanes that are always empty of bikes. >> Why is it falling? I suspect one factor is the constant propaganda >> claiming everyone NEEDS a barrier-segregated facility to be safe on a >> bike. That tells almost everybody "You can't ride a bike until that >> stuff gets built." IOW, never. >> > > That’s clutching at straws really is! don’t think the massive increase in > car sizes/volumes car centric infrastructure? To name but a few over the > last 70 so years? You can't deny that there have also been massive increases in "innovative" bike facilities! And car size is largely irrelevant. Do you think statements about the (supposed) great danger of riding have no effect on people's fears? Really? -- - Frank Krygowski