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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 12:21:25 -0500
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On 6/25/2024 11:28 AM, joes wrote:
> Am Tue, 25 Jun 2024 09:03:38 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 6/25/2024 8:46 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/25/2024 4:22 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Sat, 22 Jun 2024 13:47:24 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 6/22/2024 1:39 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>> Op 21.jun.2024 om 15:21 schreef olcott:
>>>
>>>>>> When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct emulation is
>>>>>> the semantics of the x86 programming language then we see that when
>>>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by H0 that its call to H0(DDD) cannot
>>>>>> possibly return.
>>>>> Yes. Which is wrong, because H0 should terminate.
>>> I think you are talking at cross purposes.  Joes's point is that H0
>>> should terminate because it's a decider.
> Thanks.
> 
>> We can get to Joes point only after my point is acknowledged as correct.
> It IS correct.
> 
>>> You're saying that when H0 is "correctly" emulating, it won't
>>> terminate.  I don't recall seeing anybody arguing against that.
>> Not at all. I am not tolerating talking about that point until after we
>> have 100% closure on the prior point.
> What other point? This has been your only content for the last month.
> 
>>> So you're saying, in effect, H0 is not a decider.  I don't think
>>> anybody else would argue against that, either.
>> I never said anything like that. It is all a matter of me not tolerating
>> the slightest nuance of any head games what-so-ever.
> You said H0 doesn't terminate.
> 

*I never said that*

_DDD()
[00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d               pop ebp
[00002183] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]

The call from DDD to H0(DDD) when DDD is correctly emulated
by H0 cannot possibly return.

Until you acknowledge this is true, this is the
only thing that I am willing to talk to you about.


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Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer