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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: how the laser happened Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:09:30 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <v5f10b$1lnfr$1@dont-email.me> References: <s2ta7jpomhs58bnntb4nut6pqc4ljskpac@4ax.com> <v5e7cv$1gvd9$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:07:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fd8e8572526367a64168c906c9e49ff1"; logging-data="1760763"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Mh/uLMznLfwXzwcK08NBm" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:eOyvRJxNR4gVNn2oSNqam7XhVW4= In-Reply-To: <v5e7cv$1gvd9$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2648 On 6/25/24 12:50, Martin Brown wrote: > On 21/06/2024 14:05, john larkin wrote: >> There was a thread somewhere above about photon wave/particle duality. >> >> >> This is worth reading: >> >> https://www.amazon.com/How-Laser-Happened-Adventures-Scientist/dp/0195153766 >> >> Einstein, in one of his fits of genius, predicted in around 1916 that >> under the right conditions, a photon could pass by an excited atom and >> the atom would kick in another photon, or add to the wave amplitude, >> depending on how you feel about these things. He called it stimulated >> emission. He also declared that the laws of thermodynamics made this >> effect impossible to use in practical situations. >> >> In 1951, Charles Townes invented a work-around trick and built the >> maser, a gaseous microwave oscillator. His superiors thought he was >> crazy to dispute Einstein and almost threw him out of grad school, but >> it worked. > > More interesting still nature beat him to it. > > The natural source W3(OH) dense molecular cloud which has hydroxyl > masers pumped by UV bright young stars embedded in it. > > Very bright ultra narrow band point sources on a fuzzy nebulous object. > > https://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/pdf/1981MNRAS.194P..25S > [...] The idea has been around for a while. Scifi writer Larry Niven used it in his Ringworld series of stories. (A ringworld meteorite defence system strips bare the hull of a space ship on a collision course with the ringworld surface.) Jeroen Belleman