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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Why do people here insist on denying these verified facts? Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:24:34 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <v5fcii$1nsua$2@dont-email.me> References: <v56n8h$3pr25$1@dont-email.me> <v56ntj$onl3$7@i2pn2.org> <v56ps2$3q4ea$1@dont-email.me> <v56sk3$p1du$2@i2pn2.org> <v56tfv$3ql1v$2@dont-email.me> <v5fa29$134dk$4@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:24:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="422dd2162c45ab1a09b084523bb5ca66"; logging-data="1831882"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/qn59js2+9QR2i/N9372F8" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:U7yA+GQD8jtxuetMBdjITbXXUjo= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v5fa29$134dk$4@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2258 On 6/25/2024 3:41 PM, joes wrote: > Am Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:18:07 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 6/22/2024 11:03 AM, joes wrote: >>> Am Sat, 22 Jun 2024 10:16:18 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 6/22/2024 9:42 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/22/24 10:31 AM, olcott wrote: > >>>> The input to HHH0(DDD) includes itself. >>>> The input to HHH1(DDD) DOES NOT include itself. >>> Yes, both include HHH0. The second case is boring. > Suppose DDD1 only called HHH1. How would HHH1 simulate it? > >> The fact that DDD calls HHH0(DDD) and does not call HHH1(DDD) changes >> the behavior of DDD correctly emulated by HHH0 relative to DDD correctly >> emulated by HHH1. > DDD does not change behaviour depending on its simulator, that is an > error on the part of the simulator. > No dumbo that is not it. The input that calls its own simulator defines different behavior than when it is simulated by a different simulator. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer