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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: Criminal Records Expunged for St. Louis Gun Couple
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 18:19:09 -0400
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On 6/25/2024 3:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v55fgb$3ir36$1@dont-email.me>,
>   moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/20/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v52ngo$2v630$8@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/20/24 9:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <v52l9a$2qv7o$10@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/19/24 3:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <v4v8ug$23o16$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>      moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/19/2024 12:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <v4uvta$21spc$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>       moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/18/2024 9:41 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <v4t2ai$1imbc$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>        "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ST. LOUIS (AP) - A judge has expunged the misdemeanor convictions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a St. Louis couple who waved guns at racial injustice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> protesters outside their mansion in 2020. Now they want their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guns back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had no idea that four years later, this still hadn't happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a gated community, which are all over St. Louis. They were
>>>>>>>>>>>> trespassing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently 'trespassing' is a meaningless term when you're doing it
>>>>>>>>>>> for 'social justice'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't you even *pretend* there's a built-in tug-of-war between
>>>>>>>>>> "trespassing" and "peaceable assembly"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe in a public place like a university quad, but not in a private
>>>>>>>>> residential neighborhood.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Under the presumption that each point of view must give some ground
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would you presume that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd say that the protesters' rights depend on history, geometry, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd say (and I'd be right) that no protester has rights to come onto my
>>>>>>> private property at all. I'm the only one who gets to decide who's
>>>>>>> allowed and who isn't. It's pretty much in the definition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They were in the street, not on McClosky's property.
>>>>>
>>>>> The street was private property, too, smooth brain.
>>>>>
>>>>> And there's nothing wrong with indicating to a screaming mob that's
>>>>> already trespassed on private property what will happen to them if they
>>>>> trespass any further.
>>>
>>>> There certainly was something wrong, and they were charged based on the
>>>> law as written.
>>>
>>> But we don't care about the law as written, remember? It's only the
>>> spirit we should be concerned with. And the spirit of private property
>>> laws certainly does allow for warning off mobs of people in the middle
>>> of nationwide violent riots from trespassing on your land and doing you
>>> harm.
>>
>> Even if that were (absurdly) the "spirit" of private property
> 
> Of course it's within the spirit of private property laws. Private
> property laws are meaningless if they provide you no remedy.

It's in the spirit of private property to kill trespassers?