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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: Criminal Records Expunged for St. Louis Gun Couple
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 22:50:28 -0400
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On 6/25/2024 6:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v5ffou$1ns3d$9@dont-email.me>,
>   moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/25/2024 3:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v55fgb$3ir36$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/20/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <v52ngo$2v630$8@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/20/24 9:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <v52l9a$2qv7o$10@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/19/24 3:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <v4v8ug$23o16$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>       moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/19/2024 12:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <v4uvta$21spc$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>        moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/18/2024 9:41 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <v4t2ai$1imbc$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ST. LOUIS (AP) - A judge has expunged the misdemeanor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convictions of a St. Louis couple who waved guns at racial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> injustice protesters outside their mansion in 2020. Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they want their guns back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had no idea that four years later, this still hadn't happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a gated community, which are all over St. Louis. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were trespassing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently 'trespassing' is a meaningless term when you're doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it for 'social justice'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you even *pretend* there's a built-in tug-of-war between
>>>>>>>>>>>> "trespassing" and "peaceable assembly"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe in a public place like a university quad, but not in a
>>>>>>>>>>> private residential neighborhood.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Under the presumption that each point of view must give some ground
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why would you presume that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd say that the protesters' rights depend on history, geometry,
>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd say (and I'd be right) that no protester has rights to come onto
>>>>>>>>> my private property at all. I'm the only one who gets to decide who's
>>>>>>>>> allowed and who isn't. It's pretty much in the definition.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They were in the street, not on McClosky's property.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The street was private property, too, smooth brain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And there's nothing wrong with indicating to a screaming mob that's
>>>>>>> already trespassed on private property what will happen to them if they
>>>>>>> trespass any further.
>>>>>
>>>>>> There certainly was something wrong, and they were charged based on the
>>>>>> law as written.
>>>>>
>>>>> But we don't care about the law as written, remember? It's only the
>>>>> spirit we should be concerned with. And the spirit of private property
>>>>> laws certainly does allow for warning off mobs of people in the middle
>>>>> of nationwide violent riots from trespassing on your land and doing you
>>>>> harm.
>>>>
>>>> Even if that were (absurdly) the "spirit" of private property
>>>
>>> Of course it's within the spirit of private property laws. Private
>>> property laws are meaningless if they provide you no remedy.
>>
>> It's in the spirit of private property to kill trespassers?
> 
> Who killed (or even tried to kill) anyone here?

Or even *threatened* to kill? ...in the "spirit" of private property?