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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 21:46:25 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 100 Message-ID: <v5ijq1$2i32s$1@dont-email.me> References: <v598l4$c4if$1@dont-email.me> <v5d1ev$16a8b$1@dont-email.me> <v5d1mm$10m6o$8@i2pn2.org> <v5d3b4$16k7k$1@dont-email.me> <v5d4gj$10m6o$9@i2pn2.org> <v5d81s$17fhi$1@dont-email.me> <v5d8fr$10m6o$12@i2pn2.org> <v5d9iv$1bem6$2@dont-email.me> <v5d9s6$10m6p$10@i2pn2.org> <v5daji$1bll8$1@dont-email.me> <v5db62$10m6o$13@i2pn2.org> <v5dckm$1bteo$1@dont-email.me> <v5e87h$12a1a$2@i2pn2.org> <v5ef4n$1ihbr$1@dont-email.me> <v5frvi$14bcm$4@i2pn2.org> <v5fslr$1uc3o$1@dont-email.me> <v5fto2$14bcm$9@i2pn2.org> <v5fu06$1umhr$1@dont-email.me> <v5fvtf$14bcn$3@i2pn2.org> <v5g1nr$1v8bm$1@dont-email.me> <v5g24k$14bcm$10@i2pn2.org> <v5g2ds$1v8bm$3@dont-email.me> <v5gs85$15l89$1@i2pn2.org> <v5h5c4$24jbd$9@dont-email.me> <v5i8vg$17ej1$3@i2pn2.org> <v5i9fh$2cko8$2@dont-email.me> <v5i9j2$17ej0$2@i2pn2.org> <v5ibfc$2cko8$5@dont-email.me> <v5icdm$17ej1$7@i2pn2.org> <v5ie9f$2dcfs$1@dont-email.me> <v5ieqg$17ej0$4@i2pn2.org> <v5ihn6$2hkk4$3@dont-email.me> <v5ijbq$17ej1$10@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 04:46:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d7b6b7ddfe8775f34f568700240d9d1b"; logging-data="2690140"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX185qNghSrRHQT84gVKT6zTb" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5PMsCXCo5vF51Z+LElc5Ji7uAX8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v5ijbq$17ej1$10@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 5533 On 6/26/2024 9:38 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/26/24 10:10 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/26/2024 8:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/26/24 9:12 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/26/2024 7:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/26/24 8:24 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/26/2024 6:52 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike understands how your use of static variables is cheating. >>>>>> Others here will be baffled and confused. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But the rules are the rules, and you can't create rules you didn't >>>>> state. >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you really have such brain damage that you cannot remember >>>> that we already discussed this and closed it I will start >>>> praying for you. >>> >>> And if I am allowed, or even required to remember that, then I can >>> remember that your Hs are all designed to be Halt Deciders, and thus >>> the only correct behavior for their input is that of the direct >>> execution of the program the input represents. >>> >> >> NONE-THE-LESS I WILL NOT TOLERATE YOU LEAPING TO THE CONCLUSION >> THAT I AM INCORRECT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH EVER SINGLE STEP. >> *When you do this I will point out your specific deceit* > > But if you don't include the restriction, it isn't there, and the fact > we are so many steps ahead of you isn't grounds to say we don't know > what we know. > >> >>>> >>>> YOU CAN'T FREAKING USE ANY STATIC LOCAL VARIABLES TO >>>> CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR AND YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T USE >>>> THEM SO FREAKING QUIT IT !!! >>>> >>>> _DDD() >>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD) >>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>> >>>> The call from DDD to H0(DDD) when DDD is correctly emulated >>>> by x86 emulator H0 cannot possibly return. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> But it does, it just isn't emulated by H0. >>> >> >> THAT IS THE FREAKING DAMNED LIAR STRAW-MAN DECEPTION. > > The "Behavior" of the input is DEFINED by the semantics of the x86 > instruction set. > > NO instruction, other than Halt, stops the processor from continuing, > thus the behavior of the input doesn't stop just because the emulator > stoped processing it. > >> >> When I say that there are some people that are so poor >> that they are starving to death and we must halt them >> >> you cannot (morally) say there is no need to help them >> because rich people are not starving to death. > > RED HERRING. > >> >> Christ taught in parables I teach in isomorphisms. >> > > But broken ones, that are just RED HERRING LIES. > > And, I know Christ, and you are NOT Christ, and it is almost blasphemous > for you to make that comparasion, especially since you have claimed to > be God in the past. > > THAT WILL send you to Gehenna. I am not the liar here. I think that we have gone way beyond reasonable doubt that you have told lies. Maybe you are one of those "Christians" that believes once saved always saved even if you commit genocide for fun an profit. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer