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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:34:12 -0400
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On 6/26/24 11:37 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/26/2024 10:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 6/26/24 10:46 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 6/26/2024 9:38 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 6/26/24 10:10 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/26/2024 8:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/26/24 9:12 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/26/2024 7:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/26/24 8:24 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/26/2024 6:52 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike understands how your use of static variables is cheating.
>>>>>>>>> Others here will be baffled and confused.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the rules are the rules, and you can't create rules you 
>>>>>>>> didn't state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you really have such brain damage that you cannot remember
>>>>>>> that we already discussed this and closed it I will start
>>>>>>> praying for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if I am allowed, or even required to remember that, then I can 
>>>>>> remember that your Hs are all designed to be Halt Deciders, and 
>>>>>> thus the only correct behavior for their input is that of the 
>>>>>> direct execution of the program the input represents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NONE-THE-LESS I WILL NOT TOLERATE YOU LEAPING TO THE CONCLUSION
>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH EVER SINGLE STEP.
>>>>> *When you do this I will point out your specific deceit*
>>>>
>>>> But if you don't include the restriction, it isn't there, and the 
>>>> fact we are so many steps ahead of you isn't grounds to say we don't 
>>>> know what we know.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YOU CAN'T FREAKING USE ANY STATIC LOCAL VARIABLES TO
>>>>>>> CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR AND YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T USE
>>>>>>> THEM SO FREAKING QUIT IT !!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD)
>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The call from DDD to H0(DDD) when DDD is correctly emulated
>>>>>>> by x86 emulator H0 cannot possibly return.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it does, it just isn't emulated by H0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> THAT IS THE FREAKING DAMNED LIAR STRAW-MAN DECEPTION.
>>>>
>>>> The "Behavior" of the input is DEFINED by the semantics of the x86 
>>>> instruction set.
>>>>
>>>> NO instruction, other than Halt, stops the processor from 
>>>> continuing, thus the behavior of the input doesn't stop just because 
>>>> the emulator stoped processing it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I say that there are some people that are so poor
>>>>> that they are starving to death and we must halt them
>>>>>
>>>>> you cannot (morally) say there is no need to help them
>>>>> because rich people are not starving to death.
>>>>
>>>> RED HERRING.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christ taught in parables I teach in isomorphisms.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But broken ones, that are just RED HERRING LIES.
>>>>
>>>> And, I know Christ, and you are NOT Christ, and it is almost 
>>>> blasphemous for you to make that comparasion, especially since you 
>>>> have claimed to be God in the past.
>>>>
>>>> THAT WILL send you to Gehenna.
>>>
>>> I am not the liar here. I think that we have gone
>>> way beyond reasonable doubt that you have told lies.
>>
>> Really, so what statement have I said that isn't actually true.
>>
>> Not just that you disagree with it, since you have been proven to be a 
>> liar, but that you can actualy preove to be untrtue.
>>
>> Your ignorance does not make my statements lies.
>>
>>>
>>> Maybe you are one of those "Christians" that believes
>>> once saved always saved even if you commit genocide
>>> for fun an profit.
>>>
>>
>> Nope. You don't know me well, so you are just making your typical wild 
>> guesses with no basis.
>> That is what gets you in trouble every time.
>>
> 
> As ALWAYS I hypothesize possibilities.

No, you hypothesize thing that might be impossibe, which are just lies.

> Since you neither confirmed nor denied it remains open.

It is unclear what "it" refers to, as usual for you.


By normal grammer, it woudl be either that you hypothesize 
possibiliteis, and I have shown some of your claimed immpossiblities are 
just impossible, or the previous comment was that I might think that 
"committing genocide for fun and profit" is something a saved person 
might do.

> 
> You know that you are doing the best that you can to
> disable an honest dialogue.
> 
> I have backed you into a corner on some of your lies.
> 

What lies?

That seems to be one of your biggest lies, you claim others are lying to 
try to disquise your own lies.

You can't show one thing that I have said that is FACTUALY INCORRCT 
(only that you disagre with them).

I have shown statements of your that ARE DEFINITIONALLY INCORRECT (even 
if you want to use a different definition, which just isn't allowed, and 
thus becomes a lie).