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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:57:24 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <v5ku94$1as00$4@i2pn2.org> References: <v598l4$c4if$1@dont-email.me> <v5d8fr$10m6o$12@i2pn2.org> <v5d9iv$1bem6$2@dont-email.me> <v5d9s6$10m6p$10@i2pn2.org> <v5daji$1bll8$1@dont-email.me> <v5db62$10m6o$13@i2pn2.org> <v5dckm$1bteo$1@dont-email.me> <v5e87h$12a1a$2@i2pn2.org> <v5ef4n$1ihbr$1@dont-email.me> <v5frvi$14bcm$4@i2pn2.org> <v5fslr$1uc3o$1@dont-email.me> <v5fto2$14bcm$9@i2pn2.org> <v5fu06$1umhr$1@dont-email.me> <v5fvtf$14bcn$3@i2pn2.org> <v5g1nr$1v8bm$1@dont-email.me> <v5g24k$14bcm$10@i2pn2.org> <v5g2ds$1v8bm$3@dont-email.me> <v5gs85$15l89$1@i2pn2.org> <v5h5c4$24jbd$9@dont-email.me> <v5i8vg$17ej1$3@i2pn2.org> <v5i9fh$2cko8$2@dont-email.me> <v5i9j2$17ej0$2@i2pn2.org> <v5ibfc$2cko8$5@dont-email.me> <v5icdm$17ej1$7@i2pn2.org> <v5ie9f$2dcfs$1@dont-email.me> <v5ieqg$17ej0$4@i2pn2.org> <v5ihn6$2hkk4$3@dont-email.me> <v5ijbq$17ej1$10@i2pn2.org> <v5ijq1$2i32s$1@dont-email.me> <v5ilj0$17ej1$15@i2pn2.org> <v5imqf$2ie27$3@dont-email.me> <v5jink$19368$1@i2pn2.org> <v5jp08$2o58l$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:57:24 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1404928"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v5jp08$2o58l$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 10550 Lines: 234 On 6/27/24 9:21 AM, olcott wrote: > On 6/27/2024 6:34 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 6/26/24 11:37 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 6/26/2024 10:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 6/26/24 10:46 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 6/26/2024 9:38 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 6/26/24 10:10 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/26/2024 8:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/26/24 9:12 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 6/26/2024 7:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 6/26/24 8:24 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/26/2024 6:52 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mike understands how your use of static variables is cheating. >>>>>>>>>>> Others here will be baffled and confused. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But the rules are the rules, and you can't create rules you >>>>>>>>>> didn't state. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you really have such brain damage that you cannot remember >>>>>>>>> that we already discussed this and closed it I will start >>>>>>>>> praying for you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And if I am allowed, or even required to remember that, then I >>>>>>>> can remember that your Hs are all designed to be Halt Deciders, >>>>>>>> and thus the only correct behavior for their input is that of >>>>>>>> the direct execution of the program the input represents. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NONE-THE-LESS I WILL NOT TOLERATE YOU LEAPING TO THE CONCLUSION >>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH EVER SINGLE STEP. >>>>>>> *When you do this I will point out your specific deceit* >>>>>> >>>>>> But if you don't include the restriction, it isn't there, and the >>>>>> fact we are so many steps ahead of you isn't grounds to say we >>>>>> don't know what we know. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> YOU CAN'T FREAKING USE ANY STATIC LOCAL VARIABLES TO >>>>>>>>> CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR AND YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T USE >>>>>>>>> THEM SO FREAKING QUIT IT !!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _DDD() >>>>>>>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD) >>>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>>>>>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>>>>>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The call from DDD to H0(DDD) when DDD is correctly emulated >>>>>>>>> by x86 emulator H0 cannot possibly return. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But it does, it just isn't emulated by H0. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> THAT IS THE FREAKING DAMNED LIAR STRAW-MAN DECEPTION. >>>>>> >>>>>> The "Behavior" of the input is DEFINED by the semantics of the x86 >>>>>> instruction set. >>>>>> >>>>>> NO instruction, other than Halt, stops the processor from >>>>>> continuing, thus the behavior of the input doesn't stop just >>>>>> because the emulator stoped processing it. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I say that there are some people that are so poor >>>>>>> that they are starving to death and we must halt them >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you cannot (morally) say there is no need to help them >>>>>>> because rich people are not starving to death. >>>>>> >>>>>> RED HERRING. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christ taught in parables I teach in isomorphisms. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But broken ones, that are just RED HERRING LIES. >>>>>> >>>>>> And, I know Christ, and you are NOT Christ, and it is almost >>>>>> blasphemous for you to make that comparasion, especially since you >>>>>> have claimed to be God in the past. >>>>>> >>>>>> THAT WILL send you to Gehenna. >>>>> >>>>> I am not the liar here. I think that we have gone >>>>> way beyond reasonable doubt that you have told lies. >>>> >>>> Really, so what statement have I said that isn't actually true. >>>> >>>> Not just that you disagree with it, since you have been proven to be >>>> a liar, but that you can actualy preove to be untrtue. >>>> >>>> Your ignorance does not make my statements lies. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you are one of those "Christians" that believes >>>>> once saved always saved even if you commit genocide >>>>> for fun an profit. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Nope. You don't know me well, so you are just making your typical >>>> wild guesses with no basis. >>>> That is what gets you in trouble every time. >>>> >>> >>> As ALWAYS I hypothesize possibilities. >> >> No, you hypothesize thing that might be impossibe, which are just lies. >> > > This is merely your ignorance of how modal logic works. > Modal Logic operators defined > "◇" for "Possibly" and "□" for "Necessarily" > ◇P ↔ ¬□¬P > □P ↔¬◇¬P But you still can not say that something is "Possible" if it actually can not be. or □¬P ↔ ¬◇P > >>> Since you neither confirmed nor denied it remains open. >> >> It is unclear what "it" refers to, as usual for you. >> > > You neither affirmed nor denied whether you are > a once saved always saved Christian or not. > https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/are-christians-really-once-saved-always-saved.html Right, because that isn't something I care to share about with you, since it is clear that you are not a true believer, and thus couldn't understand the discussion. > >> >> By normal grammer, it woudl be either that you hypothesize >> possibiliteis, and I have shown some of your claimed immpossiblities >> are just impossible, or the previous comment was that I might think >> that "committing genocide for fun and profit" is something a saved >> person might do. >> >>> >>> You know that you are doing the best that you can to >>> disable an honest dialogue. >>> >>> I have backed you into a corner on some of your lies. >>> >> ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========