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From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 11:13:36 -0400
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On 6/22/24 11:52 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/22/24 11:30 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/20/24 10:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <v52knn$2qv7o$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/20/24 5:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2024 at 12:32:11 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/20/2024 12:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <v51ik8$2kkd7$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/19/2024 11:25 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <s6077jpsl679hmse4jdbsf9eg38a9pf6qt@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are definitely technically correct. (The best kind.) That
>>>>>>>>>>>> said you can see why people consider the bump stock to be the
>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent of turning a weapon into an equal to a machine gun. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a machine gun but it ends throwing lead down field much like
>>>>>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen people who can pull a trigger all on their own pretty damn
>>>>>>>>>>> fast-- certainly at a speed that most hoplophobes would consider
>>>>>>>>>>> "machine gun adjacent".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Should we make it illegal for a human to pull a trigger faster than a
>>>>>>>>>>> certain rate? Or force anyone who can do it accurately faster than a
>>>>>>>>>>> certain rate to register their finger with the BATF as a "machine
>>>>>>>>>>> gun"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think eventually the law will be updated to include bump stocks
>>>>>>>>>>>> but who knows how long that will take. As no one who was involved in
>>>>>>>>>>>> writing the original  act likely foresaw the possibility of a bump
>>>>>>>>>>>> stock.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you look at the 15-sec. video I posted? I submit that what you're
>>>>>>>>>> seeing for *both* guns is a single function of the trigger *finger* --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even if true, the statute is silent on what the finger is doing, so
>>>>>>>>> it's irrelevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A human finger is implied by "a single function of the trigger".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it's the functioning of the trigger that's at issue, not what causes it
>>>>>>> to function. (Other things can cause a trigger pull besides a finger.)
>>>>>
>>>>>> So describe the intent of the law.  Go ahead... what was the law
>>>>>> designed to do? To regulate and prevent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't care what a bunch of politicians (all with their own agendas)
>>>>> intended. When I look to what's required of me legally, I only ask what
>>>>> does the law prohibit me from doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I drive, I don't spend time wondering about all the intents of the
>>>>> various lawmakers that set the speed limit at 70MPH. I only care that I
>>>>> can drive up to 70MPH without having to worry about a ticket.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we decided court cases based on intent, then a talented shooter would
>>>>> indeed have to worry about registering her index finger with the
>>>>> government as a "machine gun" if she could fire fast enough to mimic a
>>>>> machine gun. Something that even you dismissed as silly elsewhere in
>>>>> thread.
>>>>
>>>> They decide law based on intent all the time.  It's a staple of the system.
>>>
>>> Cool! Let's go with intent, then. Which means all those millions of
>>> illegals pretending to be refugees and just reciting the magic words to
>>> game the system can be summarily denied and deported because the intent of
>>> the refugee law was never to allow millions of people who don't qualify as
>>> refugees to game and overwhelm the system and flood unchecked into the
>>> country.
>>>
>>> Regardless of what the law actually says, its intent was never to create
>>> the current border crisis we're currently experiencing, so we can ignore
>>> what's written and just go with intent.
>>>
>>> I'm really starting to warm up to The Law According to Effa!
>>>
>>>> What do you think the Supreme Court uses to judge whether a law is
>>>> constitutional?
>>>
>>> Umm... the Constitution.
>>
>> Ummm... pass the border bill your side wrote.
> 
> No need. We already have the intent of the Immigration and Naturalization
> Act!
> 

Then why hasn't anyone said that, besides you?  A clown...

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