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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Does the number of nines increase? Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 17:01:49 -0400 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 25 Message-ID: <v5n8c3$3gth7$1@dont-email.me> References: <tJf9P9dALSN4l2XH5vdqPbXSA7o@jntp> <4RWgJcGMg1Zagk6yT04mcwxdZH4@jntp> <59961718-bd36-46df-801a-4f977fcc05cf@att.net> <v5hnrl$29b21$3@dont-email.me> <a21eede6-2b9f-44f0-8732-32bd92700dfb@att.net> <eZZGYbe53s6yBDBqGuTMM_Z1y7A@jntp> <v5lspm$1bs52$2@i2pn2.org> <HlcnRXFQ42qMfnJgEw40TN7tXjI@jntp> <v5mriv$1d3t3$7@i2pn2.org> <v5msu8$3ena6$1@dont-email.me> <7kWvquYAIwnpmJER42BML2v7650@jntp> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 23:01:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d465d5712b7a445b99a4f2e83a16af77"; logging-data="3700263"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX190rfNFLVYxPdd1CSXp5905CvKLByOiePw=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:BJOZuXDMKyua6zLsF7hqU2E4FMQ= X-ICQ: 1701145376 X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb Bytes: 2347 WM pretended : > Le 28/06/2024 à 19:46, FromTheRafters a écrit : >> joes was thinking very hard : >>> Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:55:34 +0000 schrieb WM: > >>>>> What does „complete” mean? >>>> It means that no natural number can be added to {0, 1, 2, 3, ..., ω} >>> Duh, the set of all natural numbers N contains all of them. > >>>>> With which numbers do you describe the sizes of N and N_0? >>>> Most of them are dark and cannot be used as individuals. >>> Not their elements. I was asking for their number, how many >>> of them there are. >> >> There's a number of them, however, how many there are is not a number. > > Either there is a complete and fixed set ℕ with a fixed number |ℕ| of > elements. > If so, then 0.999...*10 = 9,999... where the number of nines has not changed > by more than 0. > Or this is not the case. > But assuming completeness and simultaneously claiming different numbers of > nines is stupid. The number of nines is not a number.