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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 22:38:02 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <v5o6jr$37jie$1@dont-email.me> References: <s7r87j1c3u6mim0db3ccbdvknvtjr4anu3@4ax.com> <v5gagi$20gjg$1@dont-email.me> <v5hema$2g2i$2@gal.iecc.com> <v5i0qp$2avln$2@dont-email.me> <v5ifud$tlq$1@gal.iecc.com> <3ac7a1edcf37289f8252503ef3cabe7a@www.novabbs.org> <v5l0tp$2vslb$8@dont-email.me> <e4f7278a5ff4e0b488306ae43aac8135@www.novabbs.org> <v5nbfo$3hdrc$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:38:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a8fa80499267d3f5ef965dfe4679b6d9"; logging-data="3395150"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+w4vuvz5AedIPK6Wsw3+e+5qC6cMtz8Mw=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:DndIhFEui2wTa8kq5xkieGXK4LE= In-Reply-To: <v5nbfo$3hdrc$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2318 On 6/28/2024 2:55 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 15:08:20 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:39:46 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: >> >>>> I did; TSS 360/67 CMU, and I did; both PL/C and PL/1. >> >>> Did you make much use of LOCATE-style I/O? >> >> No, I fond VSAM completely adequate for my needs. > > This tends to confirm my suspicion that LOCATE-style I/O is too hedged > round with restrictions to be useful outside some limited set of > situations. Most of the time, it’s just not worth the trouble. It really depends upon what you are doing. When I was doing OS/360 stuff in the early 1970s, primarily COBOL, locate mode was what we used almost all the time. Of course, this was mostly sequential sequential data sets using QSAM, but back then, it was much more common than it is today. -- - Stephen Fuld (e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)