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From: Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org>
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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-06-27 (Thursday)
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On 6/28/2024 10:37 PM, shawn wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:14:29 -0700, Arthur Lipscomb
> <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/28/2024 2:22 PM, shawn wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 14:14:42 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <v5n7l5$3goq7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A Quiet Place: Day One (theatrical) Prequel and third movie in the Quite
>>>>> place franchise. This one shows the events of the Aliens arrival on
>>>>> Earth. One of the things I hate about zombie apocalypse movies where
>>>>> the Earth is overrun by zombies is there's no plausible way that the
>>>>> zombies could overtake humanity. Similarly one of the things that
>>>>> bugged my about the Quiet Place movies is there was never a plausible
>>>>> way the aliens could overtake humanity.
>>>>
>>>> If there were a lot of these things, I could see them doing it. They're
>>>> too big, strong, and fast to fight with individual troops, assuming
>>>> humanity could even muster the troops fast enough, but they're not large
>>>> enough to take on with things like missiles and nukes, at least not
>>>> without nuking a large part of humanity along with them.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to see how tanks fare against them.
>>
>> So would I!!!  You know what they should do, make a prequel.  Maybe call
>> it something like A Quiet Place: Day One, then show what happens when
>> the aliens first come to Earth.  And in that movie, they could show what
>> happens when the aliens fight a tank.  Just saying...
>>
>> I had a vague memory that maybe they were bullet proof.  But in this
>> movie, no one, ever shoots them!  Not the military, not the police, not
>> random New Yorkers who you would expect to be packing...  New York is
>> famously a city where no one has a gun.  I guess that's why the lead
>> character had to go to sleep for a few hours then wake up once the
>> fighting was over.  Then when I watched the first movie, they pulled out
>> a shot gun, so presumably bullets do work. And what about fire?  Nerve
>> gas?  They sure figured out they can't swim fast enough.  Turn a fire
>> hose on them and see what happens.
>>
>>   Are they strong enough
>>>> to defeat a tank's armor and/or overturn it? Because if not, that's
>>>> about the only thing that could stand toe-to-toe with one long enough to
>>>> put effective fire on it.
>>>>
>>>>> This movie promised to deliver
>>>>> that answer. Instead the aliens show up. The main character hits her
>>>>> head or something and is unconscious for a few *hours* at best, then
>>>>> when she awakes the aliens have already overtaken humanity. There are
>>>>> millions of people in New York City yet they all magically disappeared
>>>>> per plot. And now somehow the entire city is totally silent except for
>>>>> when the plot demands someone make a sound then that's the only sound.
>>>>> And the aliens who were no where to be found suddenly all converge on
>>>>> that location. I was really expecting more from this movie but it's
>>>>> more of the same. But I guess fans of the first two who aren't
>>>>> expecting any real answers should like it.
>>>>
>>>> My problem with the whole premise of the franchise is that these aliens
>>>> seem to instantly home in on any sound so long as the sound is made by a
>>>> person. Nature is naturally full of all sorts of sounds, which you would
>>>> think would constantly drive the creatures nuts trying to attack and
>>>> kill the birds that are flying overhead cawing or the ocean breakers
>>>> crashing on the shoreline or the trees rubbing together in the wind. But
>>>> none of that bothers or attracts them. The moment a human so much as
>>>> snaps a twig underfoot, suddenly these beasts are streaking toward them
>>>> to attack.
>>>>
>>
>> It would have to be even worse in a city like New York.  How would the
>> aliens even differentiate human from mechanical sound.  How would people
>> even figure out that they are attracted by noise when there are so many
>> other sounds at the same time conveniently being ignored?
> 
> So they only hunted by sound? Haven't seen the movies so I don't know.
>>

I don't think the aliens even have eyes.  That part is not entirely 
clear.  People are often standing out in the open then a slight sound 
and the aliens instantly know where the person is located.  The way it's 
shown the alien ninja jump out of nowhere and tackle the person so it's 
unclear if the alien would spot the person if they moved somewhere else. 
  The aliens never go after the other humans standing nearby unless 
those humans start to make noise.

>>>> I wish Clod was still around to explain how sound works like electricity
>>>> and the aliens are only attracted to artificial sound, not natural sound.
>>>
>>> If so imagine setting up a swarm of drones flying around. Going to be
>>> hard to track down the humans when there are many drones buzzing
>>> around in the air where the aliens could see/hear them but not be able
>>> to reach them.
>>
>>
>> I kept waiting for something like that to happen.  I don't understand
>> why the military didn't just herd the aliens to a location using sound
>> then kill them.
> 
> I like the idea I saw in an episode of Z Nation where they herded an
> entire hoard of Z's over the Grand Canyon. Certainly something similar
> could be done with aliens. Any near the Niagara Falls should be
> completely confused and easy enough to guide over the falls.
> 
> Hell, if these aliens are so sensitive to sound why can't they use the
> sonic weapons against them. I mean the sort that the military has like
> the LRAD. Even at low levels that should be powerful enough to hurt
> the aliens, let alone if the power was turned up.


Yes, sonic weapons are eventually introduced in the sequel.  But it 
should have been introduced in the prequel.

Something to be aware of since you've not watched the movies is the 
aliens are not technologically advanced. They are essentially wild 
animals let loose on Earth, I'm guessing by a more advance species to 
clear the planet for them.  They are big, fast, strong enough to easily 
knock over a car.  But no real intelligence or strategy.

Imagine if someone dropped 1000 hungry lions in the middle of New York. 
They run amok and kill a lot of people, but people with guns would kill 
the lions and that would be that.  So far I have not seen any reason why 
the same couldn't happen with these aliens.