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On 6/29/2024 7:30 AM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
> On 6/28/2024 10:37 PM, shawn wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:14:29 -0700, Arthur Lipscomb
>> <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/28/2024 2:22 PM, shawn wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 14:14:42 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <v5n7l5$3goq7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A Quiet Place: Day One (theatrical) Prequel and third movie in the 
>>>>>> Quite
>>>>>> place franchise. This one shows the events of the Aliens arrival on
>>>>>> Earth. One of the things I hate about zombie apocalypse movies where
>>>>>> the Earth is overrun by zombies is there's no plausible way that the
>>>>>> zombies could overtake humanity. Similarly one of the things that
>>>>>> bugged my about the Quiet Place movies is there was never a plausible
>>>>>> way the aliens could overtake humanity.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there were a lot of these things, I could see them doing it. 
>>>>> They're
>>>>> too big, strong, and fast to fight with individual troops, assuming
>>>>> humanity could even muster the troops fast enough, but they're not 
>>>>> large
>>>>> enough to take on with things like missiles and nukes, at least not
>>>>> without nuking a large part of humanity along with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see how tanks fare against them.
>>>
>>> So would I!!!  You know what they should do, make a prequel.  Maybe call
>>> it something like A Quiet Place: Day One, then show what happens when
>>> the aliens first come to Earth.  And in that movie, they could show what
>>> happens when the aliens fight a tank.  Just saying...
>>>
>>> I had a vague memory that maybe they were bullet proof.  But in this
>>> movie, no one, ever shoots them!  Not the military, not the police, not
>>> random New Yorkers who you would expect to be packing...  New York is
>>> famously a city where no one has a gun.  I guess that's why the lead
>>> character had to go to sleep for a few hours then wake up once the
>>> fighting was over.  Then when I watched the first movie, they pulled out
>>> a shot gun, so presumably bullets do work. And what about fire?  Nerve
>>> gas?  They sure figured out they can't swim fast enough.  Turn a fire
>>> hose on them and see what happens.
>>>
>>>   Are they strong enough
>>>>> to defeat a tank's armor and/or overturn it? Because if not, that's
>>>>> about the only thing that could stand toe-to-toe with one long 
>>>>> enough to
>>>>> put effective fire on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> This movie promised to deliver
>>>>>> that answer. Instead the aliens show up. The main character hits her
>>>>>> head or something and is unconscious for a few *hours* at best, then
>>>>>> when she awakes the aliens have already overtaken humanity. There are
>>>>>> millions of people in New York City yet they all magically 
>>>>>> disappeared
>>>>>> per plot. And now somehow the entire city is totally silent except 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> when the plot demands someone make a sound then that's the only 
>>>>>> sound.
>>>>>> And the aliens who were no where to be found suddenly all converge on
>>>>>> that location. I was really expecting more from this movie but it's
>>>>>> more of the same. But I guess fans of the first two who aren't
>>>>>> expecting any real answers should like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> My problem with the whole premise of the franchise is that these 
>>>>> aliens
>>>>> seem to instantly home in on any sound so long as the sound is made 
>>>>> by a
>>>>> person. Nature is naturally full of all sorts of sounds, which you 
>>>>> would
>>>>> think would constantly drive the creatures nuts trying to attack and
>>>>> kill the birds that are flying overhead cawing or the ocean breakers
>>>>> crashing on the shoreline or the trees rubbing together in the 
>>>>> wind. But
>>>>> none of that bothers or attracts them. The moment a human so much as
>>>>> snaps a twig underfoot, suddenly these beasts are streaking toward 
>>>>> them
>>>>> to attack.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> It would have to be even worse in a city like New York.  How would the
>>> aliens even differentiate human from mechanical sound.  How would people
>>> even figure out that they are attracted by noise when there are so many
>>> other sounds at the same time conveniently being ignored?
>>
>> So they only hunted by sound? Haven't seen the movies so I don't know.
>>>
> 
> I don't think the aliens even have eyes.  That part is not entirely 
> clear.  People are often standing out in the open then a slight sound 
> and the aliens instantly know where the person is located.  The way it's 
> shown the alien ninja jump out of nowhere and tackle the person so it's 
> unclear if the alien would spot the person if they moved somewhere else. 
>   The aliens never go after the other humans standing nearby unless 
> those humans start to make noise.
> 
>>>>> I wish Clod was still around to explain how sound works like 
>>>>> electricity
>>>>> and the aliens are only attracted to artificial sound, not natural 
>>>>> sound.
>>>>
>>>> If so imagine setting up a swarm of drones flying around. Going to be
>>>> hard to track down the humans when there are many drones buzzing
>>>> around in the air where the aliens could see/hear them but not be able
>>>> to reach them.
>>>
>>>
>>> I kept waiting for something like that to happen.  I don't understand
>>> why the military didn't just herd the aliens to a location using sound
>>> then kill them.
>>
>> I like the idea I saw in an episode of Z Nation where they herded an
>> entire hoard of Z's over the Grand Canyon. Certainly something similar
>> could be done with aliens. Any near the Niagara Falls should be
>> completely confused and easy enough to guide over the falls.
>>
>> Hell, if these aliens are so sensitive to sound why can't they use the
>> sonic weapons against them. I mean the sort that the military has like
>> the LRAD. Even at low levels that should be powerful enough to hurt
>> the aliens, let alone if the power was turned up.
> 
> 
> Yes, sonic weapons are eventually introduced in the sequel.  But it 
> should have been introduced in the prequel.
> 
> Something to be aware of since you've not watched the movies is the 
> aliens are not technologically advanced. They are essentially wild 
> animals let loose on Earth, I'm guessing by a more advance species to 
> clear the planet for them.  They are big, fast, strong enough to easily 
> knock over a car.  But no real intelligence or strategy.
> 
> Imagine if someone dropped 1000 hungry lions in the middle of New York. 
> They run amok and kill a lot of people, but people with guns would kill 
> the lions and that would be that.  So far I have not seen any reason why 
> the same couldn't happen with these aliens.

Because it is a horror movie?

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