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Subject: Re: Snopes Finally Debunks Left-Wing Claim of "Very Fine People" in
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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 13:01:52 -0400
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On 6/29/2024 12:22 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 6/28/24 5:22 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 6/28/2024 5:10 PM, shawn wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 19:39:52 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
>>> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's seven years after the fact and the damage has long since been 
>>>>> done, but
>>>>> the left-wing fact checkers at Snopes have finally come out and 
>>>>> admitted the
>>>>> whole claim that Trump called neo-Nazis "very fine people" was a 
>>>>> hoax. I have
>>>>> no idea why, but credit where it's due, I suppose?
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/
>>>>
>>>> Eh
>>>>
>>>> It's another example of the more Trump talked, the more he buried
>>>> himself. There was no way for him to win. He should have ignored it, or
>>>> limited his comments to condemning the murder.
>>>>
>>>> I don't put the "let's go beat up Nazis" counterprotestors on a high
>>>> moral plane. As far as I could tell, the protestors on both sides had
>>>> pretty low morals.
>>>>
>>>> I've personally objected to the removal of Civil War monuments making
>>>> the generals god-like, but MY reason is rather different than the
>>>> neo-Nazis: I don't think the modern generation should be re-writing
>>>> history. A past generation erected those monuments and we need to look
>>>> the ugliness of American history square in the face so we never forget
>>>> that Civil War generals were honored by certain Americans for the 
>>>> modern
>>>> politics of that era.
>>>
>>> People are worried about those statues glorifying the actions of those
>>> people. I don't think the reasons behind the erecting of the statues
>>> or the timing is brought up that often. Certainly I never knew growing
>>> up the time frame for the erecting of the statues or the actual
>>> reasons behind it. It would be better to have kept the statues and put
>>> more effort into teaching the history behind their erection.
>>>
>>> Not that I think it would change things as it seems most people forget
>>> what little bit of history they get taught in school not long after
>>> leaving school.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I despite prettying up history. Trump was still wrong.
>>>
>>> Agreed. History is full of ugly moments that are best remembered in
>>> the hopes that we don't repeat them.
>>
>> A descriptive plaque with any such statue would seem to be so obvious 
>> a solution that you have to wonder if both sides vehemently oppose it.
> 
> 
> We don't need statues to learn history.

In fact, these statues seem to be about forgetting it...