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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Heroic Game Launcher... BRAVO! Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:19:44 -0400 Organization: None Lines: 66 Message-ID: <v5pj80$1mr2$2@dont-email.me> References: <xcjeO.46581$J8n7.33960@fx12.iad> <tagj7j9rs89524n48kmvpi901u3cpt8on2@4ax.com> <rVjeO.119341$Kxzd.44312@fx15.iad> <2rij7jtjt58keutm8cedbnghgv445pthj7@4ax.com> <lxkeO.155852$eX68.121507@fx18.iad> <rdrj7jl5vqpp7ib5skbarragko43mb0700@4ax.com> <QJmeO.13257$S_52.4415@fx08.iad> <v5ebfn$1hofv$2@dont-email.me> <%jzeO.125458$7NFd.43488@fx16.iad> <v5fnrs$1pj51$6@dont-email.me> <le1l08F77bmU2@mid.individual.net> <v5hcvu$26q5q$2@dont-email.me> <v5hlo7$28vb2$4@dont-email.me> <v5idtl$2d9av$2@dont-email.me> <v5jk86$2ndb5$6@dont-email.me> <v5jt87$2pacp$1@dont-email.me> <le5n9cFr71nU2@mid.individual.net> <v5kj7f$2te1q$3@dont-email.me> <v5mhne$3ce5l$1@dont-email.me> <v5n4ni$3g6kf$1@dont-email.me> <v5nfog$3i6c7$1@dont-email.me> <v5ov47$3ttk6$2@dont-email.me> <v5p9kp$3vo5v$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: OFeem1987@teleworm.us Injection-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:19:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d7808a988808ae56ae470c6bbbcb3083"; logging-data="56162"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18k5uR9D514TGznRkHhx1CN" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MtnKqAEcLiDku4Wagk0yv9CHp20= X-Slrn: Why use anything else? X-User-Agent: Microsoft Outl00k, Usenet K00k Editions X-Mutt: The most widely-used MUA Bytes: 4713 RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > On 2024-06-29, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>> On 2024-06-28, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >>>> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>>> >>>>> On 2024-06-27, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >>>>>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:33:43 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then the "Big Bang" didn't create the universe? (It's hard to keep track >>>>>>>> of the latest dogma in these cultish religions.) >>>>>> >>>>>>:-D Physics = cultish religion. How fscking ridiculous! >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, it's hard to tell which direction Francis will head in next. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess it's a lot easier to believe that God had a Big Bang than >>>>>> that an eternal universe eventually became a singularity and then >>>>>> exploded to start the next cycle of universe generation. >>>>> >>>>> Try visualizing eternity. >>>> >>>> I just did! >>> >>> And what did you see? >> >> An endless sequence of expanding strings. ;-> >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Three_Minutes >> >> Early in the book, Weinberg explores the origins and implications of the >> Hubble constant, that the red shift of galaxies is proportional to their >> distance, and how this is evidence for the expansion of the Universe. He >> introduces the Cosmological Principle, that the universe is isotropic and >> homogeneous. He then tells the story behind the discovery of the cosmic >> microwave background by Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson in 1965.[3] After >> giving the reader a basis of understanding of astrophysics and particle >> physics, in chapter 5, Weinberg lays out the makeup of the Universe after >> its origin in a series of frozen frames. Weinberg shows how the Big Bang >> can account for the relative abundance of Hydrogen and Helium in the >> universe. > > So, in other words, you're visualizing short, expanding strings and > "assuming" they go on forever. You're not actually "seeing" eternity, you're > limiting it to the breadth, width and length of finite "strings." Humans are > limited in time and space so we can't "see" (visualize) eternity or > infinity, we have to believe in it by faith. You don't know about string theory? We don't need to visualize eternity/inifinity to determine its existence. Granted, a human cannot imagine, say, an aleph-null of numbers. But it can be defined by the rules it follows. > But in response to Weinberg, if the universe (or "Universe" as Weinberg > capitalizes it?) is constantly expanding, what is it expanding into? Nothing. It simply means that the diameter, as measured, is expanding. -- You fill a much-needed gap.