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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Molecular Dating: The turd that won't go away Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 15:17:16 -0400 Organization: Eek Lines: 40 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <v5pmjs$270k$1@dont-email.me> References: <b8GdnSut7s8w3-P7nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <tmidnYu6jZOe2uL7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <OuqdnUawf_-04-L7nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <14186b44-84ba-4568-bed5-42fd6a827306@gmail.com> <le9t2oFft45U1@mid.individual.net> <zvidncHzH5okgx37nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <v5pjgu$1lpg$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: jtem01@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="26227"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:NrKc17F84xhXoLA75r0jff3M8cw= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 35129229870; Sat, 29 Jun 2024 15:16:51 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1374622986E for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sat, 29 Jun 2024 15:16:49 -0400 (EDT) id DA4555DC6C; Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA4285DC4B for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FABA5F77E for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/6FABA5F77E; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 0EB4DDC01A9; Sat, 29 Jun 2024 21:17:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 21:17:16 +0200 (CEST) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v5pjgu$1lpg$1@dont-email.me> X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/2sSg0evZYReejlUUqGU37uMSgGBc1vJ4= FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4124 Ernest Major wrote: > In the light of recent mentions of the founder effect in > quoted posts JTEM might be referring to evolutionary innovation, which > is a somewhat more controversial claim. Or I might be referring to the founder effect. It actually fits Punctuated Equilibrium ala Gould like a glove. "Punctuated Equilibrium," on it's own, is really nothing more than a result, not a mechanism. "Founder Effect" is a mechanism. And I really like the term -- Founder Effect -- because it perfectly illustrates everything from isolation on an island to surviving a bottle neck. And, again, slides right into "Punctuated Equilibrium" without even a dab of lube... And they both work with Wolpoff's "Multiregionalism" or "Regional Continuity" if you prefer. AND, they all walk hand-in-hand with Aquatic Ape. This is why the good Doctor is such a genius: NOT because his ideas are good but because they are good AND are complimentary to (not in conflict with) other ideas. Out of Africa purity, on the other hand, is self refuting, where every five minutes there's new evidence that "Completely re-writes" something, only nothing ever changes. -- https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5