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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 22:50:48 -0000 (UTC)
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 04:12:34 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>> if life is too complex to have arisen by itself, then it must
>>>>>>>> have required some prior agency to create it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But surely, this agency must have been even more complex, must it
>>>>>>>>not?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm a theist, yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So how could this creator agency have arisen by itself?
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's the mystery.
>>>>
>>>>Let me get this straight.
>>>>
>>>>You postulate some complexity threshold, such that any phenomenon
>>>>whose complexity lies above this threshold could not plausibly have
>>>>arisen by itself.
>>>>
>>>>You claim life lies above this threshold.
>>>>
>>>>You realize that any prior agency that gave rise to life must also lie
>>>>above this threshold.
>>>>
>>>>So you create some kind of exemption from this threshold for the prior
>>>>agency, that you will not extend to life itself?
>>
>>Tbat’s four separate assumptions, none of which are backed up by
>>evidence.
>>
>>That’s called “circular reasoning”.
> 
> Figure it out.

It was the assumption of some insurmountable complexity threshold that is 
the problem. Either nothing can surmount that threshold, or anything can. 
So assuming the existence of that threshold, and that life lies in the 
forbidden region, leads logically to the conclusion that the forbidden 
region is not so forbidden after all.

This contradicts the original assumption of the existence of such a 
complexity threshold, which therefore must be false.

This is called “proof by reduction ad absurdum”. QED.

As they say, “your move, creep”.